Hey Apex FamHorizon has been running rampant for nearly two whole seasons now and she’s is by far the most op character to ever come out. I play with the number 1 horizon on console and watch videos of some of the best players and this characters tactical ability has turned from simply getting your team on high ground quickly.... to 1v3 push a squad and one clip the * out of people in mid air while popping free batteries every time you get in trouble. I hope to god that you guys plan on nerfing her accuracy in mid air because it makes this character bogus. When you hit a zip line your accuracy gets lowered but when hitting a grav lift you can just beam the crap out of people while strafing mid air no problems. The logic behind it is so flawed. Please do something about it season 9 because this legends can live more dangerously than any other legend ever could. Horizon now shi on wraith in her prime and look what you did to our beloved wraith.... shameful

Hey @F1YBYN1GHT I mean we've had a Wraith meta since launch, and Horizon's pure existence gives people a reason not to play Wraith.She isn't even OP. Her Passive doesn't affect her enemies, she's not difficult to hit while she's going up the gravity lift, her hitbox is decently sized and her black hole is only strong in enclosed areas, where even then it gets shot down in under a second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6P7lv5oZrE&t=431sI don`t see how exactly she will be useless. Some people just love to be on the train on the most broken legends as far as possible, and saying they are fine. :DNo they are not fine.Her passive is super strong, her ult is super strong(OP in a lot of situation, and you can throw it in a ridiculous huge amount of distance).But her Tactical is the most broken thing this game has ever seen.Straight away remove healing, as Pathfinder and Wraith can`t heal while on their tactical, and Horizon should not be able to do so. Nerf the accuracy while airborne. Nerf the strafing as well.For god sake this ain`t a Hyper Scape to fight in the cosmos, oh sorry i mean the sky, and to constantly Vertical Tracking + ridiculous hard to hit(even from Pros) Air strafes.And even after all of this nerf, she is still going to be super Strong, S tier for sure.The biggest advantage in this game - High ground, and she can take high of a high ground for god sake. Her lift is going really high. Its a great reposition tool, taking high ground, and still can be used as a semi-disengage ability.Lets not forget she has small .... hitbox, and still doesn`t have LP on her.At the end of the day this is a shooter, not a League of Legends ... Power Creep on ability should stop, or better reverse it !!!

@LordloshBang But then we have the issue of why play horizon? The gravity lift, provides no extra movement when talking about simply moving across terrain, removing heals and nerfing strafe, kinda ruins the idea of the gravity lift, so why play horizon if I can play wraith and actually be able to leave

TuxTart116, by that logic i want Bangalore to have Wraith tactical, Gibraltar ult, and still be able to smoke and have double timing, is that fair?And no she doesn`t have one of the, Its the best by far. I was watching Madness warming up for tournament, and playing solo pubs for it, and the guy literally wasted 2 mags at Horizon on her tactical, and hit her like 2 time ....ShivFPS is constantly missing on her whole mags, and doing less than 50 damage, most of the time.And actually no, no one counter her, maybe only Gibraltar dome, but dome save you against all, so ....Again lets repeat:What Albralelie said its 100% correct. its Devs own words using them for nerfing mechanics and legends.And they release this .... lets call it - thing.Again nothing against Horizon or any other legend, but some mechanics should be staying away from the game. Mechanics that are obviously unfair towards the whole player base. You have fun with it, obviously to get away with so much, but others are annoyed hard time.Again in my mind, no auto-revive should exist in such games, no Goldpacks revive for half of your hp, no using of a tactical like phase, grapple, lift and you to be able to heals on that.Horizon gives you everything, and that totally meaningless the rest of the legend and the concept we have so far.Once again, removing her healing while riding to the sky, and nerfing(again nerfing, not removing) her strafing while on her lift and add accuracy penalty as everyone have and this is absolutely fair.Don`t forget you can jump out of the lift every single second, and you have multiple options with it.You pretty much can take any high ground, at any given situation, which gives you huge advantage. And you still can use it as reposition, disengage and escape mechanism. But you shouldn`t be allowed to do so, to ride on it, heal, and shoot back with 100% accuracy and pretty much abuse a totally broken mechanic.At the moment its exactly that.Lets not forget that while she riding on her Lift, she can use her ult, which is a huge thing, and you can still spam from the sky with nades. On top of that, you can use it this to block doors/corridors and so blocking enemies or totally throws them off.Add this nerfs and she still going to be S tier, just not totally broken.But knowing how Devs addressing balance, they are either going to kill her, or nerf something that doesn`t need to be nerf, and will still let the broken mechanic.

You can`t even 3rd party Horizon for god sake ... She is jumping on her from behind,she is dodging all his shots, while doesn`t even know he is shooting at her, on top of that she is completely dodging Gibraltar ult while in the sky .....ShivFPS, a guy with 111k. on his record, whole mag on her from behind, and just 1 bullet on her, while she is riding to the sky .....https://www.twitch.tv/videos/974415573The clip is at 11:15This clip is actually super funny, because he was matched with 2 cheaters, and he managed to jump one of them over the map and killed him. :D Helping to kill the other one as well. :D

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24 Replies

TheApexLegendNu
5 years ago
@F1YBYN1GHT In season 9 they plan on nerfing horizon, mainly her strafe while inside of her tactical so shes easier to hit but imo once she reaches the top of her gravity lift it should push her off so she can’t shoot from up there
CompleatBeet
5 years ago
Hey @F1YBYN1GHT
I mean we've had a Wraith meta since launch, and Horizon's pure existence gives people a reason not to play Wraith.
She isn't even OP. Her Passive doesn't affect her enemies, she's not difficult to hit while she's going up the gravity lift, her hitbox is decently sized and her black hole is only strong in enclosed areas, where even then it gets shot down in under a second.
Solim66
5 years ago
@CompleatBeet I agree with the ult but not with the gravity lift. Over 90% of players can barely hit a strafing Horizon in her gravity lift.
Eurlannd
5 years ago
Horizon's lift gives me horrible flashbacks to the BASE Jumper in TF2
Cakito7
5 years ago
@CompleatBeetHer lift is super OP, she already has one of the best passives in the game silent dropping and instantly moving ability in one
Her Ult is ok imo, i mean it can be broken in 1 sec from only one guy shooting it but her Q is a whole different story, crazy hight advantage, whle team can use it, strafes are stupid in it, and it has litteraly no audio if there is something happening around you. Pathfinders Zip is a joke compared to Horizons lift. They should have never made it so we can stay on top of the lift for so long, it should push you on the direction you are looking at as soon as you reach up there so we cant get spitfire spammed from 30 feet above while strafing like a god
LordloshBang
5 years ago
No doubt about that she is OP, but she ain`t the longest living OP legend. Pathfinder and Wraith was pretty much broken through the most of the game lifespan.
As far as Horizon goes on, its ridiculous. Look what Albralelie have to said about her. He is totally right on everything.
Her tactical need to have the same treatment as everyone else, aka no heals allowed while on it, lower the strafe speed by a lot, and on top of that her accuracy should be as everyone else when on Zip or so.
Then she will be fine, still super strong, but fair.
CompleatBeet
5 years ago
All they should do is test increasing the cooldown of her gravity lift again, or very minor nerfs to her strafing. If they overdo it Horizon will be useless. Her other abilities are just not great and she is genuinely the best thing to ever happen to Apex.
LordloshBang
5 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6P7lv5oZrE&t=431s
I don`t see how exactly she will be useless. Some people just love to be on the train on the most broken legends as far as possible, and saying they are fine. :D
No they are not fine.
Her passive is super strong, her ult is super strong(OP in a lot of situation, and you can throw it in a ridiculous huge amount of distance).
But her Tactical is the most broken thing this game has ever seen.
Straight away remove healing, as Pathfinder and Wraith can`t heal while on their tactical, and Horizon should not be able to do so. Nerf the accuracy while airborne. Nerf the strafing as well.
For god sake this ain`t a Hyper Scape to fight in the cosmos, oh sorry i mean the sky, and to constantly Vertical Tracking + ridiculous hard to hit(even from Pros) Air strafes.
And even after all of this nerf, she is still going to be super Strong, S tier for sure.
The biggest advantage in this game - High ground, and she can take high of a high ground for god sake. Her lift is going really high. Its a great reposition tool, taking high ground, and still can be used as a semi-disengage ability.
Lets not forget she has small .... hitbox, and still doesn`t have LP on her.

At the end of the day this is a shooter, not a League of Legends ... Power Creep on ability should stop, or better reverse it !!!
TuxTart116
5 years ago
@LordloshBang But then we have the issue of why play horizon? The gravity lift, provides no extra movement when talking about simply moving across terrain, removing heals and nerfing strafe, kinda ruins the idea of the gravity lift, so why play horizon if I can play wraith and actually be able to leave
LordloshBang
5 years ago
@TuxTart116 wrote:
@LordloshBang But then we have the issue of why play horizon? The gravity lift, provides no extra movement when talking about simply moving across terrain, removing heals and nerfing strafe, kinda ruins the idea of the gravity lift, so why play horizon if I can play wraith and actually be able to leave
Didn`t you watch the video i post?
Albralelie its exactly right. Its literally what Devs have said, and then they released Horizon ....
As far as the question why play here? Simply enough. You still have top passive, you still have ultimate that you can pretty much get a triple kill with zero mechanical skill involved(to not even said zero skill at all), and without even draw your weapon wow.

You still have 1 of the best tactical, that sends you to the cosmos, and can give you High ground in absolutely every fight out there, not only that, but to your entire team, and then disappear, unlike Pathy grapple for example.
You still can use it for reposition, disengage and even escape mechanism.
But healing while riding this ..... ain`t fair for anyone, and takes zero skill, and shouldn`t be allowed.
At the end of the day this is a shooter game, and when you are about to die, cause someone is better than you, outplay you or so, you shouldn't be able to pop a panic key(Q) and get away with it. Same with Wraith players, that was all over the place, when they remove the insta Q, which was ridiculous.
Guess what good players adapt, and weak ones that were abusing this, and was pretty much straight up charge on you, and riding a totally broken mechanics for way too long, and when they were losing the 1on1 fight, they just press Q and were magically saved.
Again high ground, and even in Horizon case, its send you straight to the heaven and you really can take absolutely anything which is another ridiculous thing, but anyway if you and the team you are fighting is pretty much equally skilled, given that you have high ground, you should be able to win that fight 100% of the time. Even if they are a bit better than you, you should still be able to win the majority of the time, cause of the high ground. Its really a day and night difference, if you know what you are doing.