Caustic first of all his damage is terrible with his gas. It last what 13 seconds or something doing 5 damage with a total of 65 damage which requires someone to stay inside it. Bring it up to 7 damage for now at least leaving it at 91 damage still not completing the kill which might need to make it to 8 which can kill someone but who's really going to sit inside the gas for 13 seconds. So make it 7 or 8 damage per tick. Wraith needs her hitbox lowered at least 5%. It's a bit troubling shooting something that isn't even there like a wraith can be behind a object completely and will still be shot at. So shrink her hitbox 8% from that 20% that was increased. Loba needs a buff too with her jump drive but at the moment it doesn't matter if it doesn't work. Says that it's fixed but is worse to where now you don't even land where the jump drive is. I can throw it to her max distance just to move 5 feet stuck on a wall or I jump drive to a place above just to spawn on the edge and fall. Fix the jump drive then make it faster because it's kinda slow. Loba's jump drive should be a cooldown of 23-25 seconds and the speed of the jump drive going through the air has to be faster. Horizon I think still needs a nerf with her lift making it at least 5% shorter because that thing is super high and it's too much with trying to shoot her and her going higher than every single thing literally not one building can't be lifted above except like bonsai plasa or whatever in Olympus but that's pretty much it. I also think Wattson needs a small buff with her nodes having a bit more health. I also think revenants tactical should only take a legends ability for like 15 seconds because 20 seconds of it being removed just to be hit by it again making it 40 seconds isn't nice and maybe make it do 5 more damage.

@BarretOblivion You basically nailed it. The underlying theme with people who seem to be ok with nerfs to Caustic and other defence oriented character is that it's a FPS game and shooting is the be all end all. Other playstyles/tactics aren't tolerated as the underlying "GiT GuD" with shooting is, really, the underlying argument.I think having different playstyles and options makes the game more dynamic and interesting. In all honesty, it's kind of sad that many just want "rush rush rush, shoot shoot shoot" as the only viable playstyle. A bit one dimensional. As soon as you make them think, pause or reconsider a scenario you get howls of protest. Maybe the "gIT gUd" comment should go towards them to deal with it rather than punishing different playstyles.

@zombieshoota5000I agree with every buff - I don't agree with any nerf only because that's the only thing I read about on this forum all the time (even when i think that Horizon need some xD ).

@zombieshoota5000 I tell you a secret, the traps are for space creation and zoning not to kill people...You are playing a * FPS not an mmo

@DevsREgotisitc Wattson doesn't only have her fences with her pylon destroying grenades and cancels out plenty of the legends abilities and with the stun of her fences and the larger amout of fences she can place she is better than caustic and looking on the damage between caustic and wattson wattson would do more damage with being just 2 seconds in her fence doing like 30 damage verses caustics traps having to sit in it for 6 seconds to even out damage.

I completely agree with Caustic, what most people get wrong with "gas traps don't do enough damage to kill people" is that they say that we rely on the gas to do everything, but they misunderstand the point, if people feel comfortable in the gas knowing that they can pull off a quick med kit whilst being it it, then there's a problem IN MY OPINION.

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MildSmile1
5 years ago
I completely agree with Caustic, what most people get wrong with "gas traps don't do enough damage to kill people" is that they say that we rely on the gas to do everything, but they misunderstand the point, if people feel comfortable in the gas knowing that they can pull off a quick med kit whilst being it it, then there's a problem IN MY OPINION.
BarretOblivion
5 years ago
@DevsREgotisitc You entirely missed the point. Caustic now no longer does the job of slowing nor stopping pushes with the nerfs. Watson still stops teams, even if only slightly she does a better job now at being a defensive character. People respect the fence, they no longer care about the gas.

Lets be honest though, beside Gibby who is basically an assault character at this point instead of a defensive character, all defense characters are terrible at this point. There are too many buffs to push/attack characters to enhance their abilities to circumvent fortified defensive postitions and overall solid tactics to the point where they straight now can ignore, or easily circumvent a defense character.
Is that really the whole point to make this game a mad rush game at this point? Throw away tactics, planning, and over thinking for just a CoD rush BR?

Rampart, Caustic, and Wattson need buffs to counter the hyper aggression that they are supposed to stop or slow down. Maybe damage isn't the thing, maybe giving these characters more HP/harder to hit tacticals, have stronger crowd control when those tacticals do hit targets, etc. You can't just nerf their damage and wonder why they are so bad when you already nerfed their "annoying factors" like the Pros want.
RockDokRock
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@BarretOblivion You basically nailed it. The underlying theme with people who seem to be ok with nerfs to Caustic and other defence oriented character is that it's a FPS game and shooting is the be all end all. Other playstyles/tactics aren't tolerated as the underlying "GiT GuD" with shooting is, really, the underlying argument.

I think having different playstyles and options makes the game more dynamic and interesting. In all honesty, it's kind of sad that many just want "rush rush rush, shoot shoot shoot" as the only viable playstyle. A bit one dimensional. As soon as you make them think, pause or reconsider a scenario you get howls of protest. Maybe the "gIT gUd" comment should go towards them to deal with it rather than punishing different playstyles.
DreNH17
5 years ago
@zombieshoota5000 Completely agree with Loba (Only legend I care about) her bracelet is horrible and she needs to be able to pick up respawn banners too.
zombieshoota500
5 years ago
@DreNH17 Her bracelet isn't horrible it just is a bit slow and has bugs with it. But yea it really needs to be fixed and I forgot to add about the respawn banners but I was thinking if that was added to make her market a bit shorter.
zombieshoota500
5 years ago
@BarretOblivion For defense legends Wattson could have more health with her fences and have low profile removed and Caustic with a bit more damage and something else but I don't really know and Rampart I think should have something to do with climbing her walls I was thinking making it so that when the top part is still up people climbing through there get stunned and when the top part is broken people don't get stunned and maybe it does 5-10 damage when not broken.
DreNH17
5 years ago
@zombieshoota5000 Sorry didnt mean to put horrible like that😁 and I dont think theres a need to shorten it lol she is a support character after all. If she did get it shortened then Crypto shouldn't be able to pick up banners anymore.
zombieshoota500
5 years ago
@DreNH17Well seeing how her ult doesn't take too long of a cooldown and the infinite ammo and more loot with that and the ability to actually escape enemies if the speed of her jump drive is faster then she could be really powerful and might need some kind of nerf so shortening the size of her ultimate no more than 15% could be something to do since after just a bit of time she gets it back. Her ultimate can pick up lots of ammo or even all of it at that which really is powerful.

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