Matchmaking System is Broken

I'm on the opposite side, If go to ranked I get 2 bricks as team mates, who barely know how to play the game, most of the times they can't even hit a 100 dmg points each, I try to save them and get 3rd, 4th and 5th partied just to watch them disconnect, if go to pubs is the same, if I select not to fill teammates I left there into oblivion, I can do my grocery list, take a shower, prep meals and still be there waiting for a game, does this sound like a "engagement" matchmaking, because to me it's like a big pile of garbage, I know this will not change a thing because devs are only into the money and not quality. Apex you were a good game once, now it's just plain garbage

Honestly, I am not a great player, not bad but not great. and I am so sick of being lasered from all directions match after match, Matchmaking keeps putting me in lobbies where I am lucky to see my killer, let alone engage. I have been playing since launch (yes I still suck, I dont have the time to "get good") but honestly I dont know if I can keep this up any more.

@Zaethiel

I'm tired having to babysit my teammates. I just had a ranked match where a level 26 took Valk and proceeded to take every single bit of ammo that I needed right from under me (they followed me anywhere I went), on my screen, they were behind me, but I was most likely behind them on their screen, either way these kind of players are annoying to get. This particular person didn't even use Valk's skills, they just walked everywhere (not even run), and acted like a bot.

On top of the matchmaking needing a whole rework, Ranked needs a level 100 requirement.

The game needs to QUIT giving me:

- Below level 100 teammates
- Noob / Bot teammates
- Duo teammates (because they usually act selfish and ignore the 3rd (me) and refuse to work as a team
- Teammates who are Rookie in a Silver/Gold ranked lobby

Im a casual player who has been playing your amazing game for 3.5 years, i have only made it to Plat 3 times since i dont have the time to grind rank, WHICH MEANS I SUCK AT THE GAME!!! Stop placing me with * Masters and Preds in a Trios!!!!what happened to skill based matchmaking??? Ik im not that good at the game,and neither are my 2 friends. You ruined your game with this update and you need to fix it. Please, stop making it so competitive

Respawn, a matchmaking systems job is to organize the queued players into as evenly matched games as possible.

It is not the matchmaker's job to decide whether a player should win or lose their next match before it even starts. This

just makes the game feel unfair and often either too hard or too easy. It takes control out of the player's hands so they

either feel like the deck is stacked against them or they're being handed a pity win. Neither outcome is fun for anyone.

There is a difference between healthy engagement and unhealthy engagement. Unhealthy engagement builds addicts

by creating a feeling of emptiness in the player by either giving them an empty win or making them feel powerless about

their losses. Healthy engagement happens when you have players consistently playing because the game is actually fun.

Apex has the potential to be fun, but the matchmaking actively fights it in favor of the unhealthy type of engagement.

The reason you're doing it is because unhealthy engagement shows higher player retention in the short term, but eventually

as the players get more and more frustrated, they will start leaving. The healthy type of engagement however retains players

for a much longer time.

The other thing you need to realize is that player retention is not only affected by matchmaking. Other things affect player retention

and if you're looking to maximize long-term player retention, you need to account for all aspects.

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Here is how you make a good matchmaking system:

Keep it simple! Your current matchmaking system is trying to do too much. The job of a matchmaking system is to create games where the players are as close in skill as possible.
this maximizes the potential fun and enjoyment of every game and, as a result, player retention.

Now that we have a goal, lets talk about implementation.

How do we match similarly skilled players?

First, we need a rating system to assess the skill of an individual player. For arenas and control this is fairly straightforward as you only have two sides and one wins and one loses.

Therefor these modes can essentially be considered Zero-sum. You can use a simple elo system for this.

BR unfortunately is a little more complicated. Since only one team in 20 (or 30 in the case of duos) can win any given game.

Instead the rating system should be based on a number of different "sub-wins". When you get a kill you gain rating based on a combination of how much damage YOU
actually did to that player and the difference between your current rating and the player's. You then lose rating in a similar manner when someone kills you. The rating

system should also reward things like reviving/respawning teammates, using abilities to the benefit of your team, etc.

Just this will be a great start and will drastically improve the matchmaking system but there are a few extra factors that should be taken into account to make it even better.

- Whether a person is solo queue or playing with friends

- In the case of playing with friends, averaging out each player's rating in the squad to come up with a system where, as a squad, they are well matched to the other squads in the lobby.

- When players leave the game in control leading to a numbers disadvantage (which is extremely detrimental in control)

- Accounting for a numbers disadvantage in other modes (while not as detrimental it is still a problem)

- Console vs PC (PC players should be allowed to opt out of crossplay as well and for crossplay games console aim assist should be 0.4 not 0.6 to balance the game)

Matchmaking has been a hot topic for quite a while in Apex and the community is getting exhausted of dealing with the problems/stress/grief it causes. Games are meant to be fun, not an emotional rollercoaster.

If you listen to this advice, the entire game will be much healthier, your player base will be happier, and you will see better long term player retention (barring other outside factors).

I want to see this game succeed and I ask that you please consider what I've suggested for the good of the entire Apex community.

Thank you.

Exactly, and they claim to be working on the things we complain about servers, audio, ranked, etc... but we just don't see any progress and they go silent on the topic for months on end...

@ZaethielControl Mode is also being absolutely ruined by Masters and Predators with 18k kills, 32k kills, 46k kills, etc I’ve been seriously debating on uninstalling the game and honestly I think I am at this point because its absolutely unplayable and there isn’t a single game mode available for casual players even Control Mode that was meant for Casual Players when I originally requested it is nothing but a sweat fest I’ve played 4 games today and haven’t got a single kill... I’ve seen nothing but 4k 20 bomb sweats when the highest I have ever done is a 2k so I guess this is my final season of Apex and once my battlepass is done. I Quit.Then again I don’t even like the Battlepass so I might aswell uninstall now but idk I may keep it installed but I am sure as hell never financially supporting this game again and don’t plan on ever doing another battlepass grind fest for a game I don’t even enjoy playing 

This game is an absolute joke, they have been claiming to do this and that but I’ve been here for years at this point and years from now many of these features will still be labeled as “coming soon”