Both Havoc and L-star are very weak now. These nerfs did not balance them, but they broke them and honestly I don't see them played in Ranked anymore. They might be better than Mozambique and p2020, but I'll definitely drop my Havoc for a RE-45 or a Hemlock. About L-star, I wouldn't pick it in the first place, same as I wouldn't take a Mozambique for be fair.
The Energy weapons do seem to be in a rather odd place. The power is there, but the control of both weapons are certainly a topic for discussion. The L-Star can still shred an enemy at close range- given, if you can manage to stay on target; Same kinda goes for the Havoc. I like using the Havoc as a close-mid range gun anyways. And the Select-Fire hop-up is a nice Alternate fire that deals considerable damage with- ofcourse- no bullet drop. I like having that option in a weapon- but perhaps it needs adjusting still.
I don't think so the L-star just shreds my within seconds same thing so the the Havoc once it's charged. I think the Havoc is perfectly balanced and the L-star could a rework.
I'm okay with decreasing mag size or lowering the damage per bullet, but they messed up the aim in both guns so bad, that no one even takes them anymore. For Havoc, they could decrease mag size and return extenders for RNG nerf, and for L-star they could put the reload (instead of infinite shots) and instead make it damage more per shot and aim better. People were sad because one could take down 2 enemies with 32 havoc bullets (1 mag), but now you can not take down even 1 enemy with two mags (2X28) at mid range.
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