Re: Gun Recoil

@EldritchElvis not to mention that there's quite literally random recoil for R301, R99, and Flatline. It's nigh impossible to hit every shot because of it. 3x optics on R3 and Flatline have become super popular now because it's much easier to re-sight your target once the random recoil kicks in, not to mention the fact that on R301 the randomness can literally bump your shot in any direction. 

The main thing is recoil kicks hard if you aiming at further distances. R99 with 2x scope in a long distances kick really hard.

Go try with Havoc on 50 or 100+ meters.
Yet most streamers that barely used Havoc, are lasering with it, on any range, without missing a shot, which is impossible. If you somehow manage to keep the firsts shots, you are going to underaim and miss the target with the next ones.
Just accept that most people are using it, esp in ranked 90% is using some kind of a soft-cheat.

Got a teammate today with 30k + kills, and he was cheating.

Apex is a lost cause when we are talking about cheaters. I though they would do something in season 5, because in S4 was insane, but now its actually even way worst.

I quit Apex weeks ago after tirelessly trying to raise more awareness of this issue, only to find an alarmingly large demographic of players online claiming it doesn't exist, or that I need to get gud, etc.

Just popping back to check the progress on the issue, and am extremely saddened but totally unsurprised to see that still, no one with authority gives a single flying * about it.

Such a shame. This was my favourite game for a long time, but now it's been completely shelved. 

Just watched the "girl" streamer, she literally hipfiring at 10-15+ meter without missing a shot, and no recoil whatsoever.

That girl is using all kind of cript/macros and i`m like 10000000% sure in that.

Just watch her shooting and most importantly her hipfire.

There is no way and i say NO WAY you are that accurate on hipfire, NO WAY !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1vSFX9S9Vs

Watch the whole clip.

E9ine_AC, they don`t care mate. They won`t do anything, otherwise they had to ban 80% of the streamers. As far as soft cheaters and hard cheaters, ShivFPS is screaming every single day on his streams(he is one of the most watched streamers) about the cheating(and he is only speaking about hard ones that are obvious), yet Respawn are doing nothing, when this is hurting them big time, did you think they will care for people that complain in here, when they don`t care where top streamer like ShivFPS is saying RANKED is infested with cheaters and Respawn are doing nothing in front of millions and they still do nothing ????

So let me ask you again, did you think they really care about cheating ??? They can`t fix the hard cheating problem, and we want them to fix the soft cheating and macros/scripts ....

Ain`t happening.

At this moment it will be better to stop losing time in this forum and just wait for a better BR title that will come soon, because i`m very sorry to say it, but Apex is a lost cause.

@EldritchElvisThere are also controllers that have paddles that can lower or speed up your sensitivity mid fight like the razor wolverine with agile and focus which allow people to us super high sensitivites that even true pros can't play with consistantly without any muscle memory or fine control at all.

Edit: feel what this is like use the default setting and try to control the r99 then do it again on higher ads sensitivity.

Personally I don't think cheats should be banned I think they should secritly be blacklists that way the only people the cheaters can play with are cheaters. Give em a taste of their own toxic medicine.

@E9ine_ACThe macros i would assume are mostly be used for looting, strafe spam, crouch spam, perfect sliding and b hopping. I guess you could use it for single fire weapons too but they have maximum fire rates so....

The way that macros actually work makes them very easy to detect as with weapons like the G7 the program will automatically fire every so so many milliseconds as long as the fire button is held down a human being no matter how good they are will not be able to push the fire burn every 500 milliseconds without fail for example there will always be a few milliseconds faster or slower which means just by looking at the input the anti cheat software should be able to detect macros when it comes to recall cancellation it is exactly the same it will automatically apply x amount of downward movement players using this cannot pick up up things like barrel mods as this would alter the recoil calculations for the weapon interestingly enough in the recent armed and dangerous mode with shotguns and snipers only I saw no one who was noticeably cheating as their recall cancellation does not work on those weapon types

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rKPXsxjFVU

Zero recoil whatsoever, zero !

Check the shooting with the Alternator on the jump tower ....

And even if they detect them easy. what? Will they ban 80% of the streamers? And all the watchers on Apex will be probably gone ....

And i`m pretty sure atm that probably 50% of the playerbase if not more are using some kind of cheats/macros/scripts.

Respawn should have act way earlier, now its too late, its a lost cause.

Logitech gaming software is superior to G-Hub if using logitech.. been using logitech for 10 years now.. apex states that having preset macros on logitech settings can get you banned, but it's very fustrating for them because it's something logitech provides trough their own mouse input and they cannot distinguish what macros in the g-hub are used for

Bumping this problem. Maybe the new guy they hired for cheat team can read this post and see how many people have an issue with people completely removing the games biggest mechanic.