Re: Why is the ranked based off placement and not kills? SO Stupid.

You misunderstood me based on my lack of accuracy with what I said. I think winning trumps everything but I certainly think kills should be 2nd behind winning and definitely over placement. I think points for kills should be the highest reward under winning the entire game. Killing should reward higher points than everything except winning.

@reconzero Eh if that were the case then players would play even more recklessly. If only three players will be rewarded no matter how well everyone else played then what's the point? Fighting hard and getting 2nd place will mean just as much as being the first team knocked out.

I'd rather keep the system as it is but your kill points only multiply if you satisfy two conditions.

#1. Place top 10.

#2. Have a minimum kill total of 3 (or 5 whatever the community prefers.)

Slayers who aren't foolish enough to die in stupid ways rank up faster. Players that hide rank up slowly until they hit a wall. Slayers with no game sense bob up and down going nowhere.

Obviously I want no limit on kills points if that isn't already a thing. Would only worry about players boosting their rank but better players need to advance to their natural rank faster.

Sounds like an awful gaming experience tbh

I believe someone else already mentioned about why that in fact would not work well and I 100% agree that it would just make people stop playing ranked in general as it's part of the reason why i really don't play ranked.

Honestly thought it was obvious but that would be due to the added pressure from a win only rewards system.
Pvp games especially ones like apex already have a certain level of toxicity, even in pubs, it's not really avoidable, but the more pressure that's added to do well, the more it incorporates player toxicity.
In ranked game modes there is already an added pressure to do well because of the rewards gain and the potential to climb to higher level tiers.
With a win only rewards like they have done in arenas, it pretty much maxes out that pressure because now in order to get anywhere, your whole team has to play like gods.
There's no benefit for doing well yourself or carrying your team so a lot of people just look at their teammates, automatically decide they're no good, and just don't even try.
As a player who is around the lower end of being decent, I've been on both ends where I do very well in a match, get like 1k damage, 4 kills, 2 assist, and know the frustration for getting nothing for how well I did because we lost the match. The other team just being better or because my teammates couldn't hold their own. Losing out on something you tried your hardest to earn and not getting even a portion of what your could have earned, because lack of team strength makes people want to lash out.
I've also been on the end where I've played like absolute trash and do deserve 0 for how I played, but then my teammates are in the position above. They would have done very well and got nothing. And when people do well and still lose they start looking for the reasons why, and when they see the teammate with the lowest amount of damage, what do you think happens?
Let the cursing begin, because how dare you hold them back and for some reason they're entitled to voice their toxic opinion because you lost them the match.
A win only rewards system does very little to entice team work..sure it makes you want to get the win all the more, but it causes backlash when your team fails.
It doesn't mean you're going to communicate anything with your team or even try to work together, I've gone entire matches without a word or a ping from anyone until the match is over, and it's just them cursing for losing.

https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Feedback/Ranked-arena-idea/m-p/11955289#M99629

I had my own idea for a ranked rp system, but it would only work for arenas. I know it's still flawed but the idea of it is to keep those players that belong in higher tiers, in those tiers, makes it a bit harder to climb so players who don't belong in those teirs don't reach them, and hopefully adds a little inconvenience to smurfs. 

@XxColdFangxX

I read this post a dozen times. And I wrote at least as many responses. Responses about not letting a GAME make you feel pressured. Responses about the toxicity of other players, about the toxicity of rank ladders themselves. About the value, or lack, of what it is that rank systems produce, how they manipulate and torture players, how they warp behaviors, both in-game and on comms. About how games should be fun. About the complete worthlessness of grinding a game. And also, of course, about how a win-based rp system is inherently superior IF we can agree that winning is the object of the game. But even I have to admit that while it's AN object of the game, it isn't the ONLY object of the game.

No, I see what you're saying. All I can really say, at the end of it all, is that if you climb on a rank ladder then &^%$ will happen to you. And &^%$ is what you will all too often be made to feel like. Ranking system valuing one playstyle over another, or one behavior over another, is nothing new. Games changing what their rank systems value is also nothing new. They expect us to adapt or die. It's their show, my friend. We just play here.

To me everything you're describing is a reason to get off the ladder, but I appreciate that you have enough fight left in you to resist the new system. For the record, while I agree in principle that the system should favor wins over any other factor, I believe even more strongly that they should not make wholesale changes to rank calculation after doing it differently for the first twelve seasons. I despise inconsistency as much as anything else in this game.

Best of luck.