Re: You think hitboxes are fair?

@reconzeroWell I checked masters:

Caustic 2.1%
Vantage 0.6%
Gibby 0.7%
Newcastle 0.9%
Rev 0.2%

But path pickrate went up to more than 20% but he had been buffed and has a strong mobility ult.
Overall I think it comes down to mobility and hitbox. So if a character has a big hitbox and no mobility he is in a rough spot because he can’t properly 1v1 and will be at a significant disadvantage in every duel they take. We can not forget here that when you get hit while your shield is down you will take aimpunch negatively effecting your own accuracy. I played high diamond arena as revenant and sometimes Ash and the difference in how hard I got beamed back was significant like seriously significant. And ash is not that small really compared to something like wraith ll Watson.
The problem is if you have a big character that is at a disadvantage in a duel and they have no way out with mobility then it’s very punishing to get caught somewhere.
A path for example has often the chance to disengage with grapple that’s why his hixbox is okay. But even he got his hitbox adjusted atleast once if not more.

Just think back about the wraith nerfs to her hitbox and running Animation how people were crying, so yea I think it plays a role in people’s choices.

Every higher tier rev main will tell you that his main problem is his hitbox and nothing else, his kit is fine, his passive is one of the best in the game and his silence is also top tier and his ult is okay nothing crazy but it can be really good on right situations.

Yes, but I think it more synergy of both. For example take legeds with only one attribute

• Lifeline:  smaller hitboxes but lacks mobility. I often die quickly cause lifeline is usually focuse first.
• Valkyria: mobile but bigger hitboxes make it also not too hard to hit

Its very subjective, but overally is it also objective in some degree

I mean, as long as the hit box is taken into consideration in the legends overall balance, I think its "fair", which I currently it is. A small hit box wont save you from AA anyways haha. Also, pick rates at amateur level, even masters+, is not a good measurement of legend balance imo, especially not now when almost all pros play on private servers to avoid cheaters and not get bad habits from obliterating poor diamonds. If this game want to survive as a game with a serious and healthy pro scene, the game must be balanced according to the professional level and I am fairly sure that pros pay little to no attention to a legends hit box, at least in comparison to the rest of their kit, which I guess you can include the hit box.

I absolutley agree on the whole Hitbox stuff..

I need no data to see for myself, i wear on every legends Games played and Kills Trackers to get a rudimental understanding of their respective K/d.

Under the ones i play most:

Lifeline: 500kills more than games played, BangBang: 300kills, Octane: 250, Crypto roughly 180 - 200.

Caustic... 40 Kills more than games played.

Yes im aware they're all different calibers of characters but there is undeniably a pattern

Hitboxes are broken from the start. Remember hunching Wraith?

But hitboxes are only a part of equation, other part is how the character animations are played. This is where You can clearly see some characters being broken.

But if I understand correctly respawn wanted to create a game of odds not pure skill, so we have what we have.