READ IF YOU WANT WINGMAN NERFED

I hear all these fortnite kids coming on the forums crying about the wingman, let me explain you little kids something before fornite blew up CSGO was the biggest fps played.. there are multiude of weapons that kill you in oneshot regardless of armour.. the AK47 on terrorist side, the DEAGLE which could be bought on both and the AWP now these are the only ones I know that regardless the situation they will always be dead ifyou hit one bullet in the head .... so everyone here crying about the wingamn becuase you die to it.. you dont see csgo pros crying about the deagle or AK47 which shoots WAY FASTER then the wingman and is way more accurate.... HOnestly when i see posts about people crying over the wingman it just cracks me up becuase they die in 2 shots.. IN REAL LIFE ALL IT TAKES IS ONE......... so in my humble opinon of you cry over the wingman. go to steam and download csgo and practice one tapping with the ak47 and deagle then come back to this game when you have skill... honestly its just a cry for attenttion because someones better then you.. now I know this post will get  hate because its 2019 and you cant state facts without people getting butthurt and crying over it because they're so entitled...  alll im saying is if you the wingman is too op and neeeds to get nerf, you are a crybaby. the only gun that needs to be get nerfed is peacekeeper with choke....

How you comparing csgo to apex that comparing apples to oranges they are both different one was more towards realism and the other is a not. No one cry’s when the game is supposed to be realistic, when it’s nothing in the game is pointed towards realism like apex fort suck and other games of course people are going to cry. So....

I respectfully disagree with your post, OP.

Calling me a Fortnite kid, when not even my own daughter plays it...just wrong dude..your post deserves to be buried under your deathbox.

I made a constructive post about the Wingman & how I would change it, the issue is 2 fold... the large difference in player skill levels per game, then you put a Wingman in their hands & it's all over.

But the really stupid (sorry but there is no better word than this) thing you say it how (IN REAL LIFE IT ONLY TAKES ONE BULLET)...YEAH...BUT IN REAL LIFE, FOR EVERY/ANY GUN IT ONLY TAKES ONE BULLET.

I don't mind playing against people with a higher skill-cap.

I don't mind playing against players who take the Wingman.

What I do mind is (above-average Players, playing the Wingman), as it elevates their skills to a whole other playing field, that an MMR system has to be introduced, or the Wingmand tweaked to make things more 'even' accross the board.

Let's have a healthy discussion (if you want) about it.

Do you play Wingman?
Do you prioritise it above other weapons?
How do you face a squad of Wingman Players?

I play it every now & then but I usually prioritse either Wingman/Peacekeeper or Mastiff..and even double AR at times (R301 + Spitfire/Flatline...or Hemlok + Flatline {Hemlok for longer range single-fire snipes, or Flatline}).

When it comes to an actual solution the problems a certain amount of Players are having, the devs have 2 choices, introduce a robust MMR system or reduce the RoF on the Wingman, IMHO...

Hey OP, I'm a Global Elite in CS:GO so judging by your post I'm pretty much your idol.

And I think the Wingman needs to be nerfed to the ground.

Your comparisons are dumb. CS:GO needs low TTK. A Battle Royale needs high TTK, especially one with as fast movement as Apex Legends, so backstabbers don't win every single battle by default. That's why you can't compare a single AR/SMG/LMG to the AK47 or even M4A1. None of them come even close to the same kill speed. Meanwhile, the Wingman does as much (or even more) damage as the Deagle does (Skullpiercer included) while having a bigger magazine, far superior spamming accuracy (the deagle is a 1-tap weapon only), and compared to all other guns, gives you insane movement speed while firing.

Game is called apex legends, not csgo legends, not bf legends. Balance from other game does't matter. Ok if you so wanted to use balance form csgo; R8 Revolver requires arming - wingman need same.
In apex legends wingman and peacekeeper are dominating above all other weapons. It's not a question about those 2 weapons. 

Full body shot form peacekeeper 110, for deal same dmg from 99 u need to hit ~10 ammo: it's 1/2 from default magazine, 1/3 tier 3 magazine. At the same time peacekeeper still have 5/6. At the same time 99 requested tracking and prediction, while peacekeeper don't request hard aiming. Let's compare wingman and g-7. So g-7 is a sniper rifle, with hard bullet drop, many slots for mods (weapon definitely needs them all). And g-7 have body shot dps 136 against 153. Also head shots: 60 against 90. Pretty same magazine bodyshot dmg per magazine 300 against 270. What reason to use g-7 and collect mods if u get wingman?

Yes there is no need to hard nerf peacekeeper and wingman. But balance changing by decrease magazine sizes, lower bullet speed or harder bullet drop are needed.

OP is so clueless it boggles my mind how he even breaths. I've played Diablo 3 and can cast an ability that summons 20 spiders, those spiders can 1-shot you, therefore Wingman is fine and not overpowered. Infact, I think I just proved the Wingman needs a buff so that it fires 20 shots per click as there are 20 spiders, each able to 1-shot you, no?

I don't play Diablo, you get the point...

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@SauveNation wrote:

In the Popular fps shooter CSGO you have 2 guns that one tap you regardless of armour. the AK47 on terrorist side and the deagle which can be bought on  both and the AWP sniper. so everyone crying complaining the wingman is strong becuase you die to it. all im saying is  you dont hear cs go pros crying about eh ak47 or deagle being able to oneshot. IMO everyone that cries about it getting it nerfed are either just mad they die with it. or have no experince in csgo..  so if you think the wingman is overopowered because nomatter what its at LEAST A TWO SHOT kill then you need to practice tapping headshots incsgo and come back whenyou are good

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Guy that plays wraith telling us wingman isn’t OP....

seriously feedback forums are pointless and full of idiots.

Its getting nerfed deal with it and prepare to deal with it.  

1. This is not CS:GO. It's a completely different game with different mechanics. But...
When released in CS: GO Revolver R8, at the beginning it too turned out to be too powerful and very quickly became nerfed.
Other weapons in CS: GO over the years have also suffered from more or less serious changes, so your argument is devoid of logical grounds.

2. If any weapon is much better than others, and additionally there are no defects, it means that it requires changes. Wingman has practically no kick at all and does a lot of damage. Even bigger than the sniper rifles, which is simply stupid. In addition, many cheaters use the macro to shoot from it very fast, just like from Hemlock using a single shot mode.

3. Weapons in Apex Legends are characterized by high TTK, but Wingman is an exception here and does not fit the applied mechanics.

People have noticed that Wingman is objectively too good a weapon compared to others, and you call it crying. You're toxic.