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Typing objectively in the title does not mean your arguments are objective.
The wingman needs 3 shots to down a target with a white armor (if those shots are body shots).
That means that the person getting shot has a lot of time to start jumping, strafing and go to cover to avoid being killed. If that person chooses to fight even though a person with the wingman has landed already 2 shots on them, then that is their fault and should lose that fight.
When i jump people with alternator fully decked out most people, stick and want to fight with me, only to find out that was a bad idea since i have destroyed their armor in the first mag and have already reloaded the second mag in before they have managed to get a single shot at me.
In other words if people get the jump on you, you are at a disadvanatege and should choose wisely whether to engade or not no matter what weapon they are using.
As for peacekeeper, keep your distance and you will be just fine. Even a fully decked out one, cannot do enough damage to kill you easily when you are far from the person using it.
Weapons have strong points and weak points. The weakpoints of wingman is the recoil. That means if you keep jumping and strafing the person shooting you will have a hard time killing you you.
The weak point of the shotgun is the range. Use those to your advantage.
- 6 years agoI agree with you 100% , most people write off the alternator as a crappy gun that needs a buff but its actually really great. The slower rate of fire lets you be a little more accurate and if you can really focus on hitting most of your shots you will probably down your opponent rather quickly.
I hear a lot of people complaining about the peacekeeper or wingman in particular, as if thats the only loadout that pros run, but I find myself with a different weapon loadout almost every game and i've had great results with just about every weapon ( including the hard to use mozambique , remember this pistol fires two shots to the body and 1 to the head so aim accordingly ).
The P2020 is probably the only gun I haven't had much luck with, although I haven't tried it a whole lot to be fair, but I like the fact that its so hard to use, makes for a fun round when you're stuck with it early game sometimes. I still wouldn't give it a buff though just because I like the games current balance. - 6 years agoThe weakpoint of the Wingman is the recoil? You've just demonstrated you have no clue what you're talking about.
- 6 years ago
I don't think these guns are unbalanced at all actually, you guys just need to get better. The TTK of everything except p2020, mozabique, and maybe eva-8 are virtually identical. The wingman with skullpiercer is 2 or 3 shot kill for headshots only which with its fire rate puts it on pretty much the same kill time as even a flatline all headshots, or a prowler all headshots with selectfire or the r301. The problem is if you use an automatic weapon it will have recoil, and someone with a revolver with good aim will kill you if miss half you magazine with an automatic weapon. You have to play smarter don't rush a shotgun so hard, communicate, aim better, you'll find the balance is pretty good for most guns. Complain about the wingman lol? Stand next to someone with the r99 and stuff their skull with that bullet hose, they pretty much evaporate. Smg fire fast with some recoil so you need good aim close quarters, shotguns are close quarters and the hop up is strong but takes time to charge (maybe remove the ability to keep it charged by aim spamming?) I've gotten killed because of the charge time many times I don't even use that choke when I use that gun so expect to die from a shotgun within 15 meters, Bursts should go for the head (maybe slightly less recoil on prowler burst mode? Or a barrel attachment to do so?) And use cover more for Christ's sake, you can't run out with a flatline miss a 3rd of your clip and expect not to be punished for it. I've killed good wingman users many times, I've killed good peacekeeper users many times. Good aim, tactics, learning what guns aire oder the what, and also gee come to think of it ITS A BATTLE ROYALE BASED OF GETTING GOOD LOOT, a full set up wingman will perform better than an automatic weapon with no barrel or stock attatchment.
- 6 years agoHonestly, I feel like you're missing the overall point. The fact is, the majority of people do almost nothing but pick up these 2 guns. Yes get good, aim better, etc etc, blah blah blah.
The issue isn't skill, or lack there of. It's the overall usage of the weapons to the point that if you DON'T have one, you're gonna get mowed down by the guys that did. You can have all the skill with all the other weapons you want, but when that guy gets 1 lucky shot off from the wingman or the peacekeeper, it's basically over no matter how much you hit him.
Don't get me wrong, playing a little better as a team, working to your advantages, and picking and choosing when and where to engage is important. Of course it is, and yes using them to your advantage can win you a fight against someone with these weapons. It's not like I've never killed someone using a wingman or a peacekeeper before, it's not even that hard. The issue is that when you have one of these guns, you have a clear advantage in the fight, beyond skill, beyond equipment, and beyond teamwork.
- 6 years ago
Lol Yes, you are correct, the rest of the community (like all of us) is bad.
- 6 years ago
Well, now I'm down to a handful of friends playing this game because the rest got bored of either fighting against Wingman or bored of having to use it. Literally, you see most squads who know how to play FPS games run Wingman & PK combo because it's really the only viable weapon combo. Sure, you can use anything in a decent squad and wreck most teams if you are all good gamers, but equal opponents? No, you just can't compete with any other combo.
I am really tired of playing this game already and the rest I play with are too. I don't see this game lasting that long because of the above problem and now with the bugs appearing more and more, the stupidly designed hitboxes and unbalanced heroes, it seems the 'Best BR' game is actually turning into a piece of S**T that'll fall apart quicker than all other BR games.
- 6 years agoJust had a game where I was shot once with the wingman, turned around, unloaded half a clip from the Spitfire into this wraith. She was basically dead, then she just two tapped me because all of a sudden I couldn't hit her anymore due to her smaller hitbox and side stepping, and I'm a sitting duck as Caustic with my fat *.
I just don't see how hitting them, even with purple armor, I couldn't down them in 10+ shots, but she downs me with the same armor in 3. With a starting pistol no less.
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