I’m a little upset that the some people are so complacent in this notion, which is actually supported by Respawn and EA. For those of you who don’t know, the top 20% of players in the console world have a very serious problem in the form of Strikepack (anti-recoil controller) use. In some ways, anti-recoil controller mods are actually worse than PC hacking— because apparently these controllers are “not considered cheating” because they don’t manipulate the in-game files. I have made several threads regarding my disdain for SBMM, but I have never posted about this very real problem for console players. In fact, an argument can be made that the aggressive SBMM and Strikepack use work in tandem to make life miserable for above average-skill players, but I guess that’s a discussion for another time.What’s the consensus here on the forums? Should console players be allowed to purchase physical attachments that literally remove recoil on in-game weapons? Is it fair that some players have to exert energy to mitigate gun recoil while other players fire weapons with ease?

@Axs5626Sxa5001 Nope, pile of horse crap.Defeats the purpose of even having recoil on weapons if it can be circumnavigated and game developers don't give a damn due to a technicality.Waste of time even discussing it though, even when this was an extremely hot topic it was essentially ignored by the devs lol.

Any scripts or macros used to eliminate recoil or change the behaviour of a weapon not meant by the Devs is cheating. They need to drop the ban hammer on these guys. I see them regularly.

Jesus Christ get rid of Controllersupport for pc and let us pc players out of f. Crossplay

Regardless of Apex rules. If enough people on forum feel strongly enough to say it is cheating then it is.Imagine a friend comes over and sees all these things plugged into your console. It is like hiding a dirty habit like sniffing drugs in their toilet. It is shameful for friends to see.lol that Strikepack sell slogan "Play like a Pro" and lists numerous cheat functions. Everyone please give one star on its google review please. Defamation in google review is not a breach as long as it is true.

@DarthValtrex I’ve heard the opposite— that the mods aren’t considered cheating and that’s why we aren’t seeing bans on the console side of things.I recently got into an argument with an online “friend” who revealed they have been using it for the anti-recoil functions. This is what prompted me to start asking other players at the Diamond/Masters level about strikepack use. I was literally offended at how many have Strikepacks with specific anti-recoil gun mods.And this makes complete sense. I have pretty good aim on console and some of what I feel (and spectate) just doesn’t make any logical sense. One clipped by a Volt from 300 meters? Wait what?

“Anti-recoil controllers are NOT cheating.”

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MandatoryIDtag
5 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 Nope, pile of horse crap.
Defeats the purpose of even having recoil on weapons if it can be circumnavigated and game developers don't give a damn due to a technicality.
Waste of time even discussing it though, even when this was an extremely hot topic it was essentially ignored by the devs lol.
GRiPSViGiL
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 And on top of this there is a soft bot built into using a controller as well. Aim assist is automation but people who never competed in their life at anything and got participation trophy's will argue it's okay to use.
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 I do believe that the mods are considered cheating. But the strike packs themselves are not. The strike parks are just paddles on the bottom of the controller that turn a standard controller into an elite controller.

Elite controllers are not cheating, they simply allow the person to bind functions to the paddles.

How ever using third party software is viewed as cheating. I have seen substantially more of the rapid fire mods and no recoil. There are players in almost every lobby, but I have faith that it will be addressed. It seems like one specific console has a much higher number of players using it than the other.
Axs5626Sxa5001
5 years ago
@DarthValtrex I’ve heard the opposite— that the mods aren’t considered cheating and that’s why we aren’t seeing bans on the console side of things.

I recently got into an argument with an online “friend” who revealed they have been using it for the anti-recoil functions. This is what prompted me to start asking other players at the Diamond/Masters level about strikepack use. I was literally offended at how many have Strikepacks with specific anti-recoil gun mods.

And this makes complete sense. I have pretty good aim on console and some of what I feel (and spectate) just doesn’t make any logical sense. One clipped by a Volt from 300 meters? Wait what?
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001The last I read from any source that was reliable, the mods are viewed as cheating. You can look at the EA TOS at the link below and it clearly states third party softwares are ban offenses. Macros loaded on a strike pack that rapid fire or remove recoil would be using third party software.

How ever as I said, I don't believe the strike packs themselves are something you would be banned for. It's not the strike pack that's doing the anti-recoil it's a third party software loaded onto the strike pack. I think many of the people who think the anti-recoil macros are okay, have simply confused that Strike packs with no mods are okay but strike packs with third party software are not. That's at least my understanding and that's my opinion.

That is at least my understanding, if I'm wrong perhaps one of the CM could clear it up for us.

I would stay away from using it, some might be getting away with it for now. I'm sure the EA TOS department will investigate it and take appropriate action if needed. Just look at the nearly 500 Diamond-Predator players who won't be able to play all of Season 7...

EA really wants a fun, fair and competitive environment for everyone.

https://help.ea.com/en-us/help/account/electronic-arts-account-suspension-policy/

I would agree 1 clipping someone at 300M with a volt is highly suspect. Most players have a difficult time landing shots with a sniper at 300M let alone a Volt.

On the bright side look at how good you are? You can compete with people who have software helping them... Imagine how much you'll shred when they are not in the lobby?!
matzesingt
5 years ago
Jesus Christ get rid of Controllersupport for pc and let us pc players out of f. Crossplay
aisthebestletter
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
Any scripts or macros used to eliminate recoil or change the behaviour of a weapon not meant by the Devs is cheating. They need to drop the ban hammer on these guys. I see them regularly.
CompleatBeet
5 years ago
Yup. I agree with this thread. Let's get this a hot topic so someone will actually see this.
PsyhiX69
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
Wait... so You can have controller with build-in aim-hack but You can't have a mouse with the same (macro or just plain hardware aim-hack)?
PeterN_UK
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
Regardless of Apex rules. If enough people on forum feel strongly enough to say it is cheating then it is.
Imagine a friend comes over and sees all these things plugged into your console. It is like hiding a dirty habit like sniffing drugs in their toilet. It is shameful for friends to see.
lol that Strikepack sell slogan "Play like a Pro" and lists numerous cheat functions.
Everyone please give one star on its google review please. Defamation in google review is not a breach as long as it is true.