I often question this as I complain about the tick rate. I have very high internet speed but am constantly being blasted for damage after I have already closed a door, ran around a corner, or ducked behind cover. I wonder why I do not notice is very often watching gameplay from top streamers yet when I play it is happening nearly every game. I live in rural Maine and wondering if that is the cause.

@PODERINGPUGALIST The place you live might be the issue here. You're not just further away from the data centers, but you also have less routes available and probably more hops between you and the servers, because you live in a rural area, where the isp networks don't have city like density. Chances are you have higher lag but also a more unstable connection (high ping fluctuation), even if you don't see packet loss. The high speed internet is basically just a higher bandwidth cap with no guarantee that it will be very stable or constantly close to that max value.

@DarthValtrex The frustration came only because I've never hit so many consecutive Wingman shots like ever. I do know very well how no regs happen, actually calculated that there's an offset like 0.7m for each 100ms of delay, considering normal Apex running speed. Now imagine 600ms and the target being a Bloodhound on ult 🙂By the way, I tried NY servers a couple of times, out of curiosity. The game felt definitely playable even at 200ms ping. There were some no regs and damage received behind corners, sure, but I managed to adjust my play for high lag and it was ok in the end. Not all playstyles work with high lag (sniping is pain, doorplay is suicide) but otherwise the experience can be decent. 4Ks are harder than usual because of the higher no reg percentage.I have a theory regarding the more distant servers offering a more stable , although laggy connection. I think the data transfer gets normalized if more hops and routes are available (more buffering and less bottlenecking). Still, it's a hard compromise to give up reaction time for more stability.

@PODERINGPUGALIST Depends how far and what your ping is. But in general yes you are.. You can probably play on servers with 80-150 ping.. Anything above 80 ping you're going to start to notice the lag. 150+ ping and the game becomes nearly unplayable for me.

@PODERINGPUGALIST When I play with my homies in Europe my ping is around 20-30, but if I want to play with my Japanese friends we connect together to US servers to have similar pings- they are around 120 - 130 for me and Tokyo friends.Still we manage to win games

@NolanGraysonnn Kind of the same, when I play with friends in Europe I connect to the NY Servers, we are both around 80-90. I think ping below 150 you'll have some success but you won't be posting 4k rounds.

Am I at disadvantage for living further away from Respawn Servers?

12 Replies

DoYaSeeMe
5 years ago
@PODERINGPUGALIST The place you live might be the issue here. You're not just further away from the data centers, but you also have less routes available and probably more hops between you and the servers, because you live in a rural area, where the isp networks don't have city like density. Chances are you have higher lag but also a more unstable connection (high ping fluctuation), even if you don't see packet loss. The high speed internet is basically just a higher bandwidth cap with no guarantee that it will be very stable or constantly close to that max value.
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@PODERINGPUGALIST Depends how far and what your ping is. But in general yes you are.. You can probably play on servers with 80-150 ping.. Anything above 80 ping you're going to start to notice the lag. 150+ ping and the game becomes nearly unplayable for me.
NolanGraysonnn
5 years ago
@PODERINGPUGALIST When I play with my homies in Europe my ping is around 20-30, but if I want to play with my Japanese friends we connect together to US servers to have similar pings- they are around 120 - 130 for me and Tokyo friends.
Still we manage to win games
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@NolanGraysonnn Kind of the same, when I play with friends in Europe I connect to the NY Servers, we are both around 80-90. I think ping below 150 you'll have some success but you won't be posting 4k rounds.
NolanGraysonnn
5 years ago
@DarthValtrex I totally agree that it is too much lag for highly skilled players, but since I am super average it's okay for me.

I have never done more then 2.5k dmg in a single game anyway :P
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@NolanGraysonnn Getting more than 2.5k damage is really hard. It has to be a perfect storm for it to happen. You can push absolutely everything you hear and destroy everything you hear and still have a hard time breaking 2.5k simply because you run out of people to kill.
NolanGraysonnn
5 years ago
@DarthValtrex Thank you for kind words, making me feel better about myself 😂
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@NolanGraysonnn n/p you also kind of need teammates who are not that great.. when you play with good teammates they often help you kill enemy squads which is great, but that reduces the damage you can do.
DoYaSeeMe
5 years ago
I actually had a game recently with an average of no less than 550-600ms ping! The friend I was playing with was having only 30ms, while the third experienced sluggishness on his side as well. But, surprisingly, the game felt decently smooth and playable. There was a very high amount of no regs, the most frustrating moment being a full purple mag of Wingman rounds hitting the target (8 consecutive hits is an achievement in itself) but not getting confirmed / registered by the server. We ended up 4th, I managed to do almost 900 damage despite the no regs and scored a kill (frustratingly got eliminated 2 seconds before the other 3 enemies that I've downed got wiped out by the closing ring.
This game felt better than many others at normal ping (40-70ms) and came as a confirmation to my belief that network instability weighs much more than high lag when it comes to bad experiences.
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@DoYaSeeMe I'm fairly confident what's happening there is that you're shooting someone who's no longer there on the servers end. Basically the animation you see is old compared to what's going on at the server.. Thus it looks like it hits but you get no-reg.