Enemies get double damage My legend gets half damage Downed in 2 hits any weapon Cheaters Hackers KD from 1.3 to 1 and still dropping. Thay is to say I'm now losing over 100 deaths to lifes over literally 2-3 days. 70 wins per season to 24. Legend stops moving. Bullets going through players All with great connection. Matchmaking with level 1 - 8 players when I'm level 500. Matchmade with 8-12 year old. Game. Is. Joke. I genuinely hate it now. [CM - Title updated for clarity]

@Asmodeus566 I'm not making any claims, I'm just sating my first hand experience.I've played this game since season 1. Took a long break. Came back.I know how the game works when it's working right.I'm getting downed within half a second, fullshields and health from a Spitfire gun;I've emptied a whole spitfire magazine into someone's back and they run off. I then empty another half a magazine into their back as they're running off and they do not get downed.Their shields barely shatter.I'm getting shot feedback on each hit.You can't tell me that is normal. I know for a fact what is normal. That's not how the game was working beginning of season. Wasn't how it was working in other seasons. Maybe at points. But you cannot deny that that is my experience.I was good hundreds of kills ahead of my deaths, within 3 days of playing (for only a couple hours at a time), my deaths have surpassed my kills.I have a positive kd each season (maybe barring 1 or two I don't know)I average 60-80 wins per season.My wins are currently on 24.Win lose draw I don't care (I do), but if when I shoot people they take the same time/dmg to kill as do I (all other factors equal) then I have no complaints (beyond MM (; ).But this is not the case. You know it.You stand then and head on hit someone with a whole spitfire mag, enemy does not even move laterally. You drill them with every shot. Then "boom boom" 2 shots and you're downed in less than half a second.Even with the same gun. That is the experience. This isn't about "take a break", that won't change anything.I'm not making any claims about this or that, I'm just stating the cold facts of my experience.And this is with 12-40ms connection and no packet loss.Again, not making any claims about whatever, just detailing my experience. Others too are having this experience.

@Asmodeus566 I confirm what he said @1ronKeys, it almost always happens to me too, I went from 1.5kd to 0.7 after the release of this season, I doubt that I have lost my ability in such a short time, one thing is very clear (YOU HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH CHEATERS AND SERVERS)

There must be a hell of a lot of frustrated Apex players if that's all it is lol.1ronkeys I pretty much agree with your comments regarding the perceived damage you can inflict on an enemy pales in comparison to what an enemy can inflict with little to no effort as I too have faced the same experience on many occasion. I've encountered plenty of scenarios where I've been downed in a split second by 2-3 shots of an AR by my count but when reading through the stats it would show well over 15-20 shots.Cheating is rife in the game every Tom,* & Harry knows that but aside from that the game is buckling at the seams with bugs & various performance issues largely because it's still operating on the Unreal 4 engine,an engine well over 10+ years old when many other games have moved on to the Unreal 5 engine.Also Apex is still run on low tick 20hz servers which is responsible for the input lag & hit box issues which is prevalent in the game, I can only speak as a console player on both the PS5 & XBOX Series X & the game just feels like a laggy mess with frame rate issues regardless of playing either on 60hz or 120hz.And is EA laying off all those play testers actually going to improve gameplay in Apex going forward in all honesty absolutely not.

Been playing since beta, off an on I found this was always an issue. However, this season it happens far more frequently. Putting whole clips into enemies backs which in previous seasons would have boxed them quickly... now they are absorbing all my shots then doing a quick 180 and finishing me in never and I mean never more than 4 bullets. Usually 2 or 3. Even in the firing range which I use religiously... most guns are always acting different almost each time I go into it and practice and warmup before a match. The consistency of the weapons, how they hit waivers from session to session. Not sure what's going on... but sure doesn't feel right, or the same .

Hey Legends, We want to join this discussion and clear up any confusion. As we can see you’re all passionate about the game and care about the gameplay, fairness and everything related to Apex Legends and so do we. I’ve been playing this game since day one and it’s been my favourite FPS since then. The game has changed so much since its launch, even though it was already amazing from the start. Honestly, it has evolved in so many ways and I am excited about its future. With that in mind, your feedback is very much appreciated and is always being considered. We know that there’s always room for improvement and the community makes an enormous difference by sharing their experiences, ideas and fostering collaboration. For example, one topic many of you have raised in this thread is regarding weapon damage feeling different, whether from one player to the next or from prior seasons. We document any changes of this nature in our patch notes, so the News & Game Updates section is often a good place to see if something recently changed. If those don't match your experiences however, letting us know as you've done here or in a Bug Report thread is invaluable. The more information you can provide such as videos or screenshots, the more we have to work with when looking into those matters to help determine whether things could be related to a certain server issue, general connection issue, or something else entirely going on. The collaboration we've previously seen from you all across a variety of situations is massively helpful and leads to a better experience for everyone as a result.That said, we would like to remind you to keep the conversation polite and constructive according to our User Rules and Guidelines as we work together to improve the game. We’re looking forward to hearing your stories and continued feedback!EA_Mari

Apex Legends Feedback: Areas for Improvement

24 Replies

1ronKeys
2 years ago
@1ronKeys EVERY GUN ONE BULLET DOWNED

what sick joke is this. Your game is done.

Bin.
Asmodeus566
Hero+
2 years ago
@1ronKeys

"Enemies get double damage, My legend gets half damage"

This is a false statement if what you mean is that EA is giving some players the ability to deal more dmg per bullet and other players less.

Lets not spread false information.

I see that you are currently frustrated with the game, we all need breaks sometimes.

I have taken anywhere from 1-2 week or even 3-4 week breaks from the game and came back very refreshed for it.

I wish you the best of luck, gaming and IRL.
1ronKeys
2 years ago
@Asmodeus566 I'm not making any claims, I'm just sating my first hand experience.

I've played this game since season 1. Took a long break. Came back.

I know how the game works when it's working right.

I'm getting downed within half a second, fullshields and health from a Spitfire gun;

I've emptied a whole spitfire magazine into someone's back and they run off. I then empty another half a magazine into their back as they're running off and they do not get downed.

Their shields barely shatter.

I'm getting shot feedback on each hit.

You can't tell me that is normal. I know for a fact what is normal. That's not how the game was working beginning of season. Wasn't how it was working in other seasons. Maybe at points. But you cannot deny that that is my experience.

I was good hundreds of kills ahead of my deaths, within 3 days of playing (for only a couple hours at a time), my deaths have surpassed my kills.

I have a positive kd each season (maybe barring 1 or two I don't know)

I average 60-80 wins per season.
My wins are currently on 24.

Win lose draw I don't care (I do), but if when I shoot people they take the same time/dmg to kill as do I (all other factors equal) then I have no complaints (beyond MM (; ).
But this is not the case. You know it.

You stand then and head on hit someone with a whole spitfire mag, enemy does not even move laterally. You drill them with every shot. Then "boom boom" 2 shots and you're downed in less than half a second.

Even with the same gun. That is the experience. This isn't about "take a break", that won't change anything.

I'm not making any claims about this or that, I'm just stating the cold facts of my experience.

And this is with 12-40ms connection and no packet loss.

Again, not making any claims about whatever, just detailing my experience. Others too are having this experience.
hayhor
Hero
2 years ago
@1ronKeys There's either a connection issue, server issue or game version issue. I've not had the issues you've had once this season and I've played on local NA 25 ping and EU 125 ping. You've mentioned you are on PS4. I am on PS5. This season they added the upgraded version for next gen consoles. Perhaps that's why there's an issue. The other guy on this forum complaining the most is on switch. From what I've seen of gameplay on that the difference in frames is crazy and can explain a lot of the issues. Now let's apply that to your game. PS4 maxes out somewhere in the 40s for frames. If more of the playerbase is on 120 frames perhaps that's part of the issue.
1ronKeys
2 years ago
@hayhor so I was wondering this too. Or similar.

Because obviously you probablt won't see every shot. But I'm literally seeing two bullets. Downed. So that could make sense with frame rate perhaps.

However the issue that would still remain is enemies in situations where I'm not being shot at, and it's taking that long to down. So I can say it's taking 3 seconds to down an opponent with shots landing. So that doesn't seem right.

It's just unplayable. No other kind of lag issues or anything. You just get downed instantly. All the time. I'm literally struggling to get any kind of knocks. Even in cases I'm getting up to 1000 damage. And even getting the damage is difficult if you get in an actual fight. It's down and out. With immediacy.

Is the game unsynced or something? Is that something that could happen?
Asmodeus566
Hero+
2 years ago
@1ronKeys

I never said that these incidents that are afflicting you are not happening I just said it is not EA tweaking individual damage rates like you have insinuated.

@hayhor Is probably on the right track here.

I used to have an older PC and at times I struggled with "like" issues. I have a very new RIG and have had no such problems. Staying up to date on hardware, software and internet goes a long way.

Playing on a Switch vs other consoles like PS and Xbox or even in PC lobbies is sure to get you wrecked more often than not.

As far as "older" consoles this could be an issue as well.

This is one of the reasons that I am for lobbies being separated so that all are working off of the same basic tools level: Switch vs Switch, PC vs PC, and all of those different PS and x-box players playing vs the same type of console and model type. This would make the game more even footed and more enjoyable IMHO. However I can see from a marketing angle why they (EA) have cross play so that those with friends on different hardware can play together.

I am just glad I do not have friends that play this game on Switch because I would not play with them because they just cannot compete due to their hardware limitations and it would limit their and my enjoyment.
lnxtv
2 years ago
@Asmodeus566 I confirm what he said @1ronKeys, it almost always happens to me too, I went from 1.5kd to 0.7 after the release of this season, I doubt that I have lost my ability in such a short time, one thing is very clear (YOU HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH CHEATERS AND SERVERS)
VersusGravity
Rising Scout
2 years ago
@lnxtvDefinitely a lot of cheaters, not sure how anyone can deny it's not an issue. The servers have been a bit iffy this season, well, every season. Everything feels a bit laggy, like you're walking through jello at times. Not sure if people are manipulating that somehow.

@1ronKeysIt sounds like you run into the reduced damage thing a lot more than I do, but it definitely seems like something is up. Enemies just not taking damage, even though you're barrel stuffing them.

The "Time to Death" vs "TTK" seems vastly different too, like you've been saying. Respawn had an article explaining their network, it wasn't very good. They try to be "fair" to all players, so basically people with high ping have a better chance, at the cost of the game not feeling as responsive as it should for a shooter. So who knows if someone has figured out how to completely manipulate that.
hayhor
Hero
2 years ago
@1ronKeysYeah I dunno what is happening in those moments. Desyncing can definately happen. For anyone this is happening to I'd give this advice: Turn performance display on, record the moments this happens and report them under the bug report section with video.
Redmattgame
2 years ago
There must be a hell of a lot of frustrated Apex players if that's all it is lol.1ronkeys I pretty much agree with your comments regarding the perceived damage you can inflict on an enemy pales in comparison to what an enemy can inflict with little to no effort as I too have faced the same experience on many occasion. I've encountered plenty of scenarios where I've been downed in a split second by 2-3 shots of an AR by my count but when reading through the stats it would show well over 15-20 shots.Cheating is rife in the game every Tom,* & Harry knows that but aside from that the game is buckling at the seams with bugs & various performance issues largely because it's still operating on the Unreal 4 engine,an engine well over 10+ years old when many other games have moved on to the Unreal 5 engine.Also Apex is still run on low tick 20hz servers which is responsible for the input lag & hit box issues which is prevalent in the game, I can only speak as a console player on both the PS5 & XBOX Series X & the game just feels like a laggy mess with frame rate issues regardless of playing either on 60hz or 120hz.
And is EA laying off all those play testers actually going to improve gameplay in Apex going forward in all honesty absolutely not.