Console lobbies are way easier than pc lobbies?

@Axs5626Sxa5001 PC preds and masters include pros. They are playing against pros on a daily basis, which will make them better players.

@MrSwinks1 console gets more aim assist: .6 on console and .4 on PC.

@MrSwinks1 I only play PC and my feeling about console lobbies comes from YT videos. From those, console lobbies look much easier and like a totally different game.

I haven't played Apex on a console and have only messed about very briefly with an Xbox Elite Wi-Fi controller in the training lobby. All of my time in Apex has been spent playing on PC using a mouse and keyboard. Because I believe it's the most sporting way to play Apex, as there is no assistance from the game itself, unlike controllers which do have aim-assist.

The worst aspect of my lobbies by far, though, is how I can play for hours or days, or maybe even weeks, with awful teammates against seemingly invincible enemies. Last night was like this, when I had low-level teammates against low-level enemies, and what seemed be an enormous amount of undisguised cheating. There was also a lot of hateful talk which I have recorded, edited and will submit to EA.

I think lobbies should be separated by controller type. The 40% aim-assist of controllers on PC must surely be because 60% is thought by the developers to be too strong against mouse and keyboard users. I would also like more PC players to use mouse and keyboard and I see lobbies dedicated to mouse and keyboard as the way to achieve that.

Playing on mouse and keyboard is much more stressful compared to a controller and is probably the best indication of just how unfair it is to mix control types in the same lobby.

But if there were a way to guarantee more enjoyable games in terms of teammates and opponents and fair play, I would take that over these other problems any day.

When you consider all of the nice things that players have been given, such as powerful aim-assist, mixed platform lobbies, freedom of control choice and mixed control lobbies, you can see that it hasn't really had a positive effect on players' attitudes to one another or how they approach fair play. In fact, these problems probably just get worse.

TLDR: Console lobbies are obviously easier. Because players controller users on console are supported by 60% aim-assist but only 40% aim-assist on PC versus 0% aim-assist if you're using mouse and keyboard.

Plus, all of these additional aspects of consoles such as 'crossplay', etc. haven't improved players attitudes anyway.

I just want a return to the golden heyday of PC only games with mouse and keyboard and see no reason why we couldn't have this in Apex.

Hey folks, 

Thanks for the additional thoughts here, though this thread was created a while back and is being locked at this point to avoid further necroposting.

Feel free to start up the discussion in a new thread if there's not a more recent topic on a subject you'd like to discuss, thanks!