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TheDaylightD's avatar
5 years ago

Devs hiding Bc of toxicity

Recently a dev posted how most of the devs are afraid to post and reply because of how toxic players can be. I’m on Twitter and Reddit a lot and I don’t see much dev posts except for the AMAs on Reddit. This is really sad but I wish we could get more updates/news on possible legend changes or Quality-of-life updates coming☹️

I really hate being left in the dark 

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  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
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    5 years ago

    Chances of hitting same head to body shots throughout a game and xxx amount of games is quite slim to always hit it multiple times in a single game let alone multiple games. 

  • You know why the people who actually set the price or bundle decisions never come out. They would get shredded in seconds...

    Devs who work on entirely different aspects get all the hate for that. Respawn as a studio should do blogs etc like how Riot games does. And I am not talking about every seasonal patch notes lol. Or a lone Dev like DanielZKlein answering questions on Reddit...

    As of now it's all up to a few devs to voluntary interact with the community if they want to and I have seen lots of people criticizing them even for jokes on twitter. No effort made sans the dev stream once in a million years.

  • Deliberus's avatar
    Deliberus
    5 years ago

    Ever since the Iron Crown event Vince Zampella and many of the other higher ups had a talk and came to the conclusion to simply resort to what all other companies do.

    Don't talk on/mention any negative thread or discussion on any major social media platform, only engage in the ones that praise you, celebrate your work or are positive in general (or jeark off to your own ego).

    It's sad but there too many idiots in this world to realise that developers are just people at the end of the day and don't need to be executed at a firing squad for bumping the damage of the R-99 by 1 point.

    So yea, as for the OP this won't change any time soon and you'll have to accept it.

  • @E9ine_AC your argument is not wrong. But the other publishers are dealing with these same issues far better than EA. EA messed up Fifa 21, Anthem, ME Andromeda, Mirror's Edge 2, and now they are failing Apex. Ppl are not attacking EA mindlessly. They are just going well with micro-transactions.
  • @E9ine_AC I'm not saying that their job is easy and i'm not talking about a specific bug or problem. I'm thinking about the overall situation. But what i get from your point is that you can't criticize the devs because it's hard to develop a game? There are tons of other software houses that are going through the same problems(or even worse ones)as Respawn but somehow they managed to minimize them. 

  • Any hour spent on the forums explaining the same things over and over again is an hour not spent on actually fixing or developing new content, or an hour taken off the afterwork life. Sure, you may say they can hire a dedicated person to do this, but that's actually the job of community moderators. They also need to interrupt the devs from their work in order to raise the relevant questions and get answers. 

    Also, the vast majority of people don't listen. They would just push for things to go their way, even in a disrespectful manner sometimes. That's not a proper conversation, the roasting would only kill their drive to interact with the community and even to develop.

    Another thing, the devs are like one year in the future with the game, upcoming legends, map, weapons, items, game modes etc. might already be at testing phase. Each post would have to be thoroughly checked so that nothing spills out. They'd also have to be careful not to fall for traps, resulting in community taking words out of context or figuring out upcoming features.

    The solution is not necessarily to have the devs here. Longterm, the best thing is to have a tech blog like Riot's , where the gaming community can get educated on development. We can't really talk about a proper conversation before this step. But such a thing takes time, a tech blog can't just pop up overnight. Also, certain things may not be relevant after a few years. when new tech or tools roll out, so it might not even be worth spending valuable time to do such a blog. Actually, why not use Riot's? 

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
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    5 years ago

    @Cro_Pitttyou are allowed to think and feel how you wish against devs. I never once said people was not able to. I said I will defend it because I know the work that goes into it.

    Some demand some trash without understanding.Yes there are problems yes there is right for complaints. But some of the comments are quite extreme. Some tell the devs kill them self. Some call them names that we used when we was 12. Everyone is free to feel how they wish. But there are ways players can express themself without going to those measures.

    All games need feedback. All games dont need players belittling them without even understanding some things at hands. A lot companies are on a leash. They can only post they can only do as they are allowed.

  • Unpopular Opinion:  The Developers should respond regardless of toxicity.

    So...I'm not necessarily saying the Developers should lead the charge on marketing and information for a company.  But I would definitely say toxicity is a very weak reason for avoiding it.  A sharper reason is that Developers  are not PR people.  We do live in the age of people wanting to believe 'truths' though, even false ones, as long as people can continue to believe hype.  In that regard, all industries of entertainment have started to front run their developers, and writers and all sorts of backline artists to create the illusion of honesty with a product.  And people who have a good excuse for honesty will often ignore whether something is even slightly honest if it is good enough to believe the illusion so they can wear their proper fan hats.

    Therefore a developer isn't doing anything more than a PR job when posting in regards to their product.  All the hurt feelings just do not matter.  Your video game company is raking in phat cash and they're going to get as much of is as they can, especially if they can make people blind fans.  So a developer is being a marketer.

    Your average commercial doesn't care about toxicity.  Neither do celebrities who come on talk shows to promote their latest movie or project.  And so, if a developers job is to promote the game by getting onto twitter or whatever medium of promotion, then they should post up, and completely ignore the commentary.  As part of their job.  For their paycheck.  And if they are getting paid, they should be asking for more money to do said PR job (and by the way on that, yes, I know they are not because devs are underpaid and overworked, but that is actually a separate topic called is a developer paid what they should be for their work).  I also would definitely not post as a dev for a game company unless I was paid for it extra, because it is exactly that, work. 

    Sorry if that cuts through all the hand holding, grabby tookus feelings, but video games, fun as they are, are a job.  Nobody is friends, and nobody is really an enemy.  There are customers and game employees.  That is the relationship, and when it is looked at in that way, you can address this whole issue better as marketing.  If someone is breaking hte terms of Twitter when they post, or some other medium, report it to that company.  I think if a developer is paid for it, they should get out there, promote their game with their news or info or whatever, and get some thick skin. Many people suck, but some have points, and none are an excuse to stop promoting your game and doing your job if you are being paid for it. 

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