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damsonwhufndthi's avatar
damsonwhufndthi
3 years ago

Does everyone have aimbot or are they just that good?

Like I don't know at this point what to think, I open door, and 90% of my HP disappears, enemy barely gets scratched, enemy runs into me, I shred 60% of their health, they start going around, I do ...
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reconzero's avatar
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@damsonwhufndthis

At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist: cronus, xim, strikepacks... not to mention literal aimbots & wall hacks that are, I'm told, everywhere on PC.

I'd like to be able to say that I can tell the difference between someone who is good and someone who cheats, but I can't. Anyone who says they can is living in a fantasy world. Especially now that most aimbots are designed to miss a small percentage of shots in order to prevent detection. Let's put it this way: if I run into a player or two in a match and they have supernaturally good aim, then I'd be willing to put it down to "hours of practice or native ability." But these days it's half the lobby. And I'm not in anything like "high skill" lobbies. So there's really only two other explanations: luck or cheating. You tell me which one you think it is.
Xubunnytwo's avatar
Xubunnytwo
3 years ago

Then there are people like this Selly who have the cam on his hand just to prove he is NOT cheating;

https://youtu.be/CdOXCkZUs68

There will be some issues in the near future of PvP gaming as programs like EAC will no longer detect cheaters who are using hardware cheats.  It should prove to be a real challenge to the game developers to come up with a solution.  In the end, the cheater only deprives themselves of an honest victory.

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    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Xubunnytwo

    "In the end, the cheater only deprives themselves of an honest victory."

    I would have said that there are far too many people out there who either don't care whether their victory is honest, or who have somehow convinced themselves that what they do is legitimate based on any one of a million different rationalizations. The honor system just doesn't cut it anymore. If it ever really did.

    In the end, the cheater deprives all of us of confidence in game integrity. Which may not drive me out of the game, but which certainly does make me play in ways that my teammates despise and which is 180 degrees out from how the developer intended the game to be played.

    And the video brings two things immediately to mind. First, anyone can cheat on video, even a video that claims to be proving the opposite. Maybe ESPECIALLY on such a video. Second, if it is real, then it's a demonstration of how the developer made a conscious decision to build the game in such a way that it would actively seek out the handful of players with his innate ability... and then guarantee that the rest of us will grind away at a game we can never hope to be good at. Thus we just all sit back and rely on terrible sbmm and even worse cheat detection. Lucky us.
    • Xubunnytwo's avatar
      Xubunnytwo
      3 years ago
      @reconzero I understand where you are coming from on the spoilsports ruining the fun. Most of them tend to show up at the start of a new opening. I would expect to see a lot more "Banned for No Reason" threads to pop up in here on the 14th for a few weeks. This would mean someone is being diligent at their job. I am not saying false positives can't happen, but they should be very rare. PvP game format will have to evolve into something very different, if we are going to block these cheaters. Who knows what the new format might be, only the future can tell.
      • damsonwhufndthi's avatar
        damsonwhufndthi
        3 years ago

        @DeepBeatslet's not pretend the game doesn't have a way of removing recoil without any software or hardware...

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