2 years ago

Help me choose a new loadout

I don't know if everything's so well balanced now. Or the random mashup gameplay makes every weapon equally useless.

Either way, I really can't decide.

R99

CAR

Either of these good? Or is the Volt trumping?

Or should I run with a RE45 or p2020 instead?

G7 vs Hemlok

Sometimes G7 just seems to murder and Helmok feels lightweight and pathetic. Other times G7 just seems slow and pointless.

G7 vs 3030rep - similar with the G7vsHem. 30 feels nice, but it feels more like a sniper and the 3x distance often means you're battling an AR.

Running a Volt AND Re45 or p2020 - is this too close range? Stuck at mid-lengths? Feels like to have a shield shredder AND a finisher weapon tho.

Midrange and SMG or midrange and Pistol?

What weapon would you accompany a Sniper with??

Using Vantage a lot, sometimes I'll take a Marksman, as sometimes you need a weapon when your Ult has emptied and you're at range.

I feel like Ult + mid(Marks/Ar) + Close should be the load...

But, same with Ballistic, I find myself only ever really using 2 weapons. Despite liking the 3 load.

Is the 301 any good anymore? I seem to not do so great with it tho find it a nuisance in reverse.

Hemlok + SMG or Hem + pistol.

If Sniper/marks, should your other weapon be close range or mid range? Either way I feel you'll be struggling at one range or another.

Help.

discussion

18 Replies

1ronKeys
2 years ago
I just checked tier lists at Dexerto and Esports and they vary so much from eachother.
hayhor
Hero
2 years ago
@1ronKeys There's pretty good balance right now but if you want to know what's most effective watch algs scrims. For range you will see 3030s on every team. With the smg nerfs I'm not sure if teams have adjusted yet for close range.

Personally I'm a Flatline guy and then will run any shotty with maggie or run an smg, even an alternator if I have the hop up.
1ronKeys
2 years ago
@hayhor Yeah that's what my thoughts were... didn't feel anything was particularly better or worse, depended on usage and personal pref/style. (Tho the 301 does feel a bit lacklustre for me)

I tried running the flatline, not sure why I don't seem to get on with it. Tried it in single fire but it's bullets seem to drop quick/short(?)

Re Maggie I unlocked/tried her last night, I didn't notice any speed boost with shotguns? I was hoping it would be like a Ballistic/Bloodhound Ult type of movement. Or a Bangalore. I also find her Ult incredibly poor.
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@1ronKeys

I get very cynical about "choices" like which weapon to look for and which to ignore. They're all seemingly built around a flaw or series of flaws that make them both uninspiring and unreliable. Not, though, if you watch the streams, where players choose their weapon based on the fastest ttk, because why wouldn't you do that when you have 97% accuracy? A gun that to you and I kicks like a mule, appears in the hands of a streamer or pro to be self-aiming. "That's practice," "That's time in the firing range," "That's natural ability." Say whatever you want. I don't care if they're good or cheating. I care that a normal player can't tell the difference between the two, and I care that no amount of practice makes any difference to me personally. That's a game with too many cheaters, or that's a game with a skill-gap that's too wide. Or the later contributes to the former and you end up with a snake that keeps eating its own tail until the game just completely unravels.

Flatline and triple take.
hayhor
Hero
2 years ago
@1ronKeys The speed boost is that she moves faster with a shotgun. It's basically the holstered weapon speed which is good if you can use a shotgun well. The ult is situational. One thing to remember it's not for killing enemies as much as its for moving/rotating or providing entry to a house that someone has blocked up. And it's the best counter for gibby bubbles. On olympus I do enjoy knocking people off the map with it.
1ronKeys
2 years ago
@hayhor I was testing moving with it compared to moving with a Nemesis... didn't notice any significant difference.

Re her ult I had 2 enemies walk into a crate when looking for me and I chucked it in there with em. Didn't do much. And neither did my shotgun ha
1ronKeys
2 years ago
@reconzero See this is a big factor huh. I'm trying to look at like ttk and damage stats and try to work out what. Based on my experience would be a better shout. (Cause we know our own weak/strength with weapons). Interestingly hemlok and volt had decent damage stats as well as other things, both of which I had a leaning towards.

I'm like you though... I hate in a match I'll be presented with a Hemlok, a G7 and a 3030, maybe even an smg... and I'll be like... but which?! And I think I want to "know" so I can be more decisive in those situations and just know my preferences.

Sometimes I'll judge it on... let's say I pick up a level 3 energy mag, I have a g7 no attach and there's a volt. I'll go volt.
Or I may have a 3030 but not seen a x3 scope. I'll swap out.

But this does mean sometimes I waste space carrying attachs for weapons I might not bother switching to... so it's good to know if I'm definitely looking to switch.

Another annoying thing is you may have like 2 good games killing it with xyz weapon so think "this is my one" then it just stops working for you.
1ronKeys
2 years ago
This all being said...
I've started really enjoying the p2020 and having good success with it at drop.
Trying it out in later stages.
Curious as I never used to consider myself a single shot guy. But I seem to do alright (and find fun) with pistols in games.
As well as enjoying single shot on the Hemmy.
1ronKeys
2 years ago
Also shout out to the Prowler!
That was my original favourite gun. (Used to team with a G7 and do good).
hayhor
Hero
2 years ago
@1ronKeys TTK isn't everything. Versatility and damage per clip matter too. The 301 up close has a lot of bloom now hip firing and with the limited bullets I just don't feel it is very good. You pretty much have to have a purple mag. A flatty tho does a good amount more damage per mag and is more accurate with hip fire. This is why I prefer it.