In design, it is, but when you play as a solo player with random fill in teammates, and nearly every game you play has either the person or people who just runs off to die by themselves, or you have the people who are most likely in a party and forget they have a third... I have lost count of the number of matches I've been just left alone, either being left behind while looting, left behind in a fight, or left alone/short a teammate because some idiot or idiots decide to drop in fragments, die in the first 5 seconds, and quit before they even hit the ground...I keep coming back to this game because I enjoy the guns, I enjoy the characters, I enjoy the overall feel of it, but being forced into a team setting in a battle royale where nobody plays it like a battle royale and just jump in, die quick, restart, jump in again, die again, constantly disrupting the game by leaving their squad down a man.....just UGH! *flips table*

Honestly, we can condense @RockDokRock first comment to "it's people" and you've hit the crux of the issue pretty sufficiently.You can't expect to play a game using a system that throws random people together time and time again and expect to have a wholely positive experience in a BR format.You've got so many factors in play when forming an effective team, even creating a full premade can take a while as you need to find a compatible balance of personality, ego, mentality and skill. Expecting anything of the sort from a solo Queue experience is just pointless lol.

@Cheese9Man This is why I think matchmaking filters would help. People find players more like them. I'd gladly wait a tad longer if I found people who weren't mindless blood thirsty drones lol.

nnnnNNNOPE!Unless you came with a pre-made team, it is not.

Most players often forget to consider what legends their teammates are using. If your teammate has Valkyrie and the storm is coming in then DON'T leave. She'll always Ult and carry you away.Many players also don't know how to play around Legends they don't use. If I'm using Rampart and you're knocked inside a build NEVER block the door with your body. My tactical is so much better for defending the revive than your body.

@jokool_aidYeah it’s almost like that in any other team based multiplayer game since people are just way different with each other. Experienced the same thing with DOTA and Overwatch. On the other hand, it’s not as noticeable in more “casual” multiplayer games that I’ve played like Battlefront, Battlefield and CoD. The main difference in these two types of multiplayer games is that in games like apex and overwatch, each player has a huge role in deciding whether you win or you lose unlike if you have 31 other teammates in battlefield (63 on BF 2042).Really frustrating and unfortunately the way to mitigate that is to look for a pre-made squad which I am very lucky to have one. Recently, if I’m alone, I prefer to play rank now since it somehow lessens the insta quits and my teammate committing to a 1v3.

Is this game really a team based game?

27 Replies

Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@jokool_aidYeah it’s almost like that in any other team based multiplayer game since people are just way different with each other. Experienced the same thing with DOTA and Overwatch. On the other hand, it’s not as noticeable in more “casual” multiplayer games that I’ve played like Battlefront, Battlefield and CoD. The main difference in these two types of multiplayer games is that in games like apex and overwatch, each player has a huge role in deciding whether you win or you lose unlike if you have 31 other teammates in battlefield (63 on BF 2042).

Really frustrating and unfortunately the way to mitigate that is to look for a pre-made squad which I am very lucky to have one. Recently, if I’m alone, I prefer to play rank now since it somehow lessens the insta quits and my teammate committing to a 1v3.
OldTreeCreeper
Hero+
4 years ago
@Cheese9Man idk, hot drop Henry is very much alive and kicking in ranked too.
Lord_Scorpion34
Legend
4 years ago
@Cheese9Man This is why I think matchmaking filters would help. People find players more like them. I'd gladly wait a tad longer if I found people who weren't mindless blood thirsty drones lol.
bosourd
4 years ago
@jokool_aid these players that do hot drop in front of enemies and die instantly have watched too many streams & highlights without realizing their lower than average skill, and they think "hmm, that's easy, I can do better than that"

being a champion is a bonus for me, I'm not against players who are always looking for a fight, I'd rather find enemy after enemy than play it safe to the last ring, especially in pubs. But some randoms prefer to do that, play it safe, no need to engage, look the other way. Boring.

Solo Ranked, hard camping in bronze/silver? yeah, I'm way past that.

Often when I solo q, I matched with teammates who drop so far and just loot every building/bin they can find, Once I noticed they are just a bunch of looting larries, I usually just leave them, fight alone, and die. Or even sometimes I just quit and find a new match. So it's a lose-lose situation lol.
KelRiever
4 years ago
nnnnNNNOPE!
Unless you came with a pre-made team, it is not.
Lord_Scorpion34
Legend
4 years ago
Nearly all my games in Ranked tonight have been solo cuz wither people wanna drop to Frag & die or split off from the team or go rambo on a team solo. Yet Solos wouldn't be a hit now? Yeah right!
RockDokRock
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Lord_Scorpion34 wrote:
Nearly all my games in Ranked tonight have been solo cuz wither people wanna drop to Frag & die or split off from the team or go rambo on a team solo. Yet Solos wouldn't be a hit now? Yeah right!
@Lord_Scorpion34 Solo's has been tried. Didn't work. My experience with it was there was massive teaming going on. Great idea, doesn't work well in practice so don't expect to see it. It's people, this is why we can't have nice things.
RockDokRock
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@jokool_aid wrote:
In design, it is, but when you play as a solo player with random fill in teammates, and nearly every game you play has either the person or people who just runs off to die by themselves, or you have the people who are most likely in a party and forget they have a third... I have lost count of the number of matches I've been just left alone, either being left behind while looting, left behind in a fight, or left alone/short a teammate because some idiot or idiots decide to drop in fragments, die in the first 5 seconds, and quit before they even hit the ground...
I keep coming back to this game because I enjoy the guns, I enjoy the characters, I enjoy the overall feel of it, but being forced into a team setting in a battle royale where nobody plays it like a battle royale and just jump in, die quick, restart, jump in again, die again, constantly disrupting the game by leaving their squad down a man.....just UGH! *flips table*
@jokool_aid It is supposed to be a team based game. And that, really, is where its strength lies if you want to get anywhere. There are some legends that are designed for good team play (I can't see how you can play Crypto any other way than having your team be aware of what you are doing and acting accordingly). With the lack of team play I would argue some legends are harder to play or just unviable. This is unfortunate but just the way it is. if possible play with a group of friends regularly as I find that much more rewarding. Some good banter and good times.
Randoms are just that, random and I'm losing patience with them. I rarely play on my own anymore due to this. I did for a bit last night and a Loba setup shop (in front of a ****ing door) and as I main Caustic when Loba does her thing I usually lay some gas traps down for protection/early warning if someone gets near while we are using it. You know... teamplay. After I dropped the 3 traps and went to use the shop she closed it and ran off. Seriously, I just spent that time MAKING THEM SAFER instead of just gobbling up loot (I would get 3rd pick in it as everyone would be largely done by the time I've secured the area... that's fine) and it's gone. I quit the match at that point and stopped playing. So tired of this type of thing,
The modes are the same too. I main Caustic, he's useless in Arenas due to the shoot-shoot-shoot nature of the mode.
The65thCavalry
4 years ago
Respawns business model is to make solo players as miserable as possible
Asmodeus566
Hero+
4 years ago
The game is a team based game the problem lies with the short attention span and the instant gratification needs of a lot of players and their inherent lack of getting past ME ME ME or I I I need the kills I need the loot I need this I need that and the not a care in the world for their teammates.
I really do have a lot more fun playing with my friends 3 stacked and when I play with Randoms most of the time it works out because we play as a team. It is that 1-2 in 10 games where the Solo Q player that only wants to play solo messes up the team experience.
@The65thCavalry Answer to your quote below: That is of course not their business model, the business model is based off of selling virtual cosmetics. As far as the Game itself goes it was created as a team based BR game. Where is the I in team?
@The65thCavalry wrote:
Respawns business model is to make solo players as miserable as possible