K/D is a value that does not lie about the abilities of a player.Playing constantly good will raise K/D and the other way round.Best thing is, you can't manipulate K/D since playing "worse" is almost impossible.You would need to play countless booring matches and loose a lot...Please give it a try EA, the changes to SBMM in the last 2-3 seasons really made everything worse.I am willing to accept much longer waiting times if that is nescessary!Right now waiting times are less than 10 seconds, for a fair match I would wait up to 60 seconds.And maybe you can also add some seconds to make sure all squads are filled up?Thanks

@J0604211259 Players manipulate their KD every match. You've seen the people who get knocked but leave before being put in a box? Why do you think they do that?Also I believe KD has some effect on sbmm. It shouldn't have all of it tho. It is a BR and winning matters.

@J0604211259 wrote:K/D is a value that does not lie about the abilities of a player.Playing constantly good will raise K/D and the other way round.Best thing is, you can't manipulate K/D since playing "worse" is almost impossible.You would need to play countless booring matches and loose a lot...Please give it a try EA, the changes to SBMM in the last 2-3 seasons really made everything worse.I am willing to accept much longer waiting times if that is nescessary!Right now waiting times are less than 10 seconds, for a fair match I would wait up to 60 seconds.And maybe you can also add some seconds to make sure all squads are filled up?ThanksI don't feel that's entirely accurate. I've gotten kills and deaths I definitely did not deserve. When a teammate pumps 190 damage into an enemy and I pump in the last 10, That's not a kill I should be getting. Also, due to RNG, on drop I get nothing, but an enemy gets a Spitfire with an Epic mag, that's not really a "fair" or "deserved" death in my opinion.Those situations have much more to do with luck (or lack thereof) than skill, in my opinion.That being said, I do understand the logic of your overall point and it's probably a better metric of measurement than whatever the hell they're currently using.

@J0604211259 i think sbmm is out of control and developer for now not have solution because are busy with other things type to create new cosmetics for sell....the slogan is: sell sell sell sell

@J0604211259 There was this Battlefield player with a kd of 100. How is this possible? Well if you go 3-nil you get a KD of 3, next game you go 2-nil and you have a KD of 5, carry on doing this and you get a KD 100, if you don't die, or you die once.Looking at his other stats he only used fighter pilot or sniper, massively weighted towards the fighter pilot. His kills per minute was 0.15, this means that in 10 minutes of play he killed on average 1.5 players, in an average 20 minute game he killed 3 players, about 80% of them from the fastest planes in the game which was the easiest way to evade damage, when hit you can fly out of range then repair all the damage.The average KPM in this game is about 1, mine was 1.5. Would you want this dude on your team?Granted this would be impossible in a BR game but it's interesting how bad players can manipulate stats.

@J0604211259 Whilst the object of the game is lost on you and many others i actually agree, that way i might get ranked matched with players that actually want to win, instead of the usual throwing themselves at every squad until they die.And KD is by far the worst metric to assess anyones ability, if your prioritising KD then you are invariably a player with zero squad skills that gets a few kills, dies charging into a full squad and quits before the bannor is even timed out.Why play a BR game where winning is what counts if all you care about is KD? Surely your better off on val or some other rinse die repeat.

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lnxtvv
5 years ago
@J0604211259 i think sbmm is out of control and developer for now not have solution because are busy with other things type to create new cosmetics for sell....the slogan is: sell sell sell sell
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@J0604211259 Players manipulate their KD every match. You've seen the people who get knocked but leave before being put in a box? Why do you think they do that?

Also I believe KD has some effect on sbmm. It shouldn't have all of it tho. It is a BR and winning matters.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@hayhor Correct SBMM does run checks for many things. I won't disclose exactly what here on the forums but there is a few things it checks for and k/d is one the checks as well as some other things.
JonStriker126
5 years ago
@J0604211259 wrote:
K/D is a value that does not lie about the abilities of a player.
Playing constantly good will raise K/D and the other way round.
Best thing is, you can't manipulate K/D since playing "worse" is almost impossible.
You would need to play countless booring matches and loose a lot...
Please give it a try EA, the changes to SBMM in the last 2-3 seasons really made everything worse.
I am willing to accept much longer waiting times if that is nescessary!
Right now waiting times are less than 10 seconds, for a fair match I would wait up to 60 seconds.
And maybe you can also add some seconds to make sure all squads are filled up?
Thanks
I don't feel that's entirely accurate. I've gotten kills and deaths I definitely did not deserve. When a teammate pumps 190 damage into an enemy and I pump in the last 10, That's not a kill I should be getting. Also, due to RNG, on drop I get nothing, but an enemy gets a Spitfire with an Epic mag, that's not really a "fair" or "deserved" death in my opinion.
Those situations have much more to do with luck (or lack thereof) than skill, in my opinion.
That being said, I do understand the logic of your overall point and it's probably a better metric of measurement than whatever the hell they're currently using.
dougieee
5 years ago
@J0604211259 Whilst the object of the game is lost on you and many others i actually agree, that way i might get ranked matched with players that actually want to win, instead of the usual throwing themselves at every squad until they die.
And KD is by far the worst metric to assess anyones ability, if your prioritising KD then you are invariably a player with zero squad skills that gets a few kills, dies charging into a full squad and quits before the bannor is even timed out.
Why play a BR game where winning is what counts if all you care about is KD? Surely your better off on val or some other rinse die repeat.
shaunlake1344
5 years ago
@J0604211259 There was this Battlefield player with a kd of 100. How is this possible? Well if you go 3-nil you get a KD of 3, next game you go 2-nil and you have a KD of 5, carry on doing this and you get a KD 100, if you don't die, or you die once.
Looking at his other stats he only used fighter pilot or sniper, massively weighted towards the fighter pilot. His kills per minute was 0.15, this means that in 10 minutes of play he killed on average 1.5 players, in an average 20 minute game he killed 3 players, about 80% of them from the fastest planes in the game which was the easiest way to evade damage, when hit you can fly out of range then repair all the damage.
The average KPM in this game is about 1, mine was 1.5. Would you want this dude on your team?
Granted this would be impossible in a BR game but it's interesting how bad players can manipulate stats.
cooperal1012
5 years ago
It's an amateur mistake to think that K/D tells the whole story. Some of us have already proven ourselves in other games and are kind of over nurturing our stats. My case is quite unique in that my account was breached while I was on a break and the person that played my account grinded thousands of inactive games.
But before then, and even now I play almost exclusively solo autofill where I will usually play on regardless of the bad hand I'm dealt. Leavers, terrible team landings, one man armies that quit the second they get knocked. And I will probably quit if I'm solo before leaving the ship, which frequently counts as an additional 0/1 to my KD. I wouldn't quit on teammates, but other than that I will always put enjoyment ahead of stats.
J0604211259
5 years ago
Well u cant manipulate K/D since you get into higher lobbys if you do so....
Then u die and K/D is corrected....
Easy and 100% save system
SBMM has been manipulated so often it doesnt work any longer...
So ge tbac to 1 basic value and good
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@cooperal1012 If you leave while in the ship I dont think it is a death. Just like the people that get downed and leave.
KelRiever
5 years ago
@J0604211259 No.