Ran a fun test over the last week.Queued with my friend (we are both Masters players).The test involved exactly 100 matches. EVERY single one of those 100 games gave us a teammate under level 5. Brand new players. Our opponents were ALWAYS Diamond or above. I think that “hard patterns” like this are hard to come by. I’ve never actually seen a 100% stat on any of the various tests I have run. -Our average waiting time for a match was 6:34 minutes-Of the 100 games, we won 4Thoughts?

@MandatoryIDtagAs tiring as these tests are, I will continue to run them. Honestly, the results are disenchanting. Obviously the newer players are having a horrendous time and getting melted every match. And the skilled players are burdened with what is essentially a handicap match. Plus waiting more than 5 minutes for a NON-RANKED mode is just absolutely ridiculous.Just leaves me scratching my head— how could a dev think this is “what’s best”? What is the goal? “Fairness?” Yeah, no.

@Axs5626Sxa5001Arena matchmaking sucks. It's a babysitting simulator.

@scivirus No. They weren’t smurfs. These were new players who got constantly melted first.

@Axs5626Sxa5001 wait your getting teammates?yeah arenas matchmaking just sucks idk why? I might dare say it's rigged as well

@Axs5626Sxa5001 Yeah, Arenas matchmaking doesn't feel like it exists most of the time. I've never played ranked before, but I'm level 497 and I've been playing off and on since the day Apex was released.But I get paired with and against level 3's who are genuinely new to the game a lot. It's hard when you get paired with a genuinely new player who isn't great - and I feel awful when I'm put against a genuinely new player and I just absolutely melt them the instant they pop up, for the easiest wins of my life. It's not fun for anyone involved.There's always 300ish players in queue for Arenas, at least according to the counter they show, so I don't see why newer players couldn't be allowed to pair against each other so they get a more fair fight.

Literally 100% percent of my Arenas teammates are under level 5

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Axs5626Sxa5001
5 years ago
@Nightstick24 I mean look, if matchmaking were random, then this would happen occasionally. But new players are INTENTIONALLY being put in a compromised scenario. That’s wrong.
Axs5626Sxa5001
5 years ago
@Nightstick24And mind you, I hate SBMM. I don’t want stricter SBMM that results in everyone winning the same.

But new players are the ONLY players that deserve special treatment. They need a safe space to learn. Im absolutely ok with experienced average players occasionally playing stronger players; but new players are different
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 That is very odd. 100 games having a level 5 or lower seems it would be a 1 in a million chance of this happening. I play a lot of arena mode solo and in 100 games id estimate i have had maybe 15-20 games with a level 10 or below at that.
SheepsKing
Rising Vanguard
5 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 Thats a pretty damming report, you should record the same test and post it.
SheepsKing
Rising Vanguard
5 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 Also, that solution sound super sus. Wouldn't that make there be a huge smurfing problem? You're talking about forcing new accounts to exclusively play against each other. Wouldn't guarantee smurfs playing against scrubs.
Lord_Scorpion34
Legend
5 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 Do you want a heating pad for your back? I'm sure carrying so much weight hurts after awhile.
D3loFF
Rising Veteran
5 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001What can I say? Keep doing tests man! Would love to see more results and statistical data.
P.S. Btw how you managed to win only 4 games out of 100 with two Master players in the team? What is your Arenas win ratio?
Axs5626Sxa5001
5 years ago
@E9ine_AC

I believe solo queueing in Arenas is different than duo queueing. On the occasions where I solo queue, the teammates are far more varied. The algorithm is probably designed to try and “balance” the teams as best as possible (utilizing a hidden ELO).

Nevertheless I assure you that I actually got 100 sub-level 5 players. We saw the same players a few times, so it wasn’t 100 separate new players.
Foofer37
5 years ago
Complain complain complain. Now you're precious Apex is dead due to even the servers being hacked. IT was already dead due to cheaters everywhere. This game got the instant death it had coming.
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@Foofer37 It isnt dead or even close. Stop the nonsense.

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