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4 years ago

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Matchmaking still ruining this game

As long as i have games where my teammates struggle to break 30 damage this game will never be fun to me

i shouldnt have to literally do everything every match. Its exhausting and becomes more of a chore than actual fun.

I just want a match where my teammates are competent players and dont run off by themself or struggle to hit a shot. Is that so hard

i cant go one game without fights being 1/2 v 3. Teammates afk, teammates disconnecting after theyve ran in and died, teammates who cant hit their shots

I JUST WANT GOOD MATCHES!!!! WHY ARE YOU MAKING IT SO HARD

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RockScorpion384
4 years ago
I just cannot enjoy the game in its current state. Every match has one of the same handful of problems and there seems to be no intent to fix them.
- being matched with brand new players. It sucks for them when they are put in matches with people way better than them and its just a bloodbath, having expectations for them to be good when they wont be. It sucks for me as i am forced to do all the work if we stand any chance to win. I have to sweat every single game otherwise we get nowhere. It’s literally fun for no one.

- Being matched with people who just drop by themselves, run in by themselves and immediately die, then disconnect. And I’m expected to be able to carry these kinds of games. If they happened 1 in 20+ games it wouldnt be an issue. But it happens 1 in every 2-3 games, to the point where i wonder why i even bother to queue up every time. It isnt fun to have your game immediately Ruined cus some kid just wanted to do their own thing. The fact this still is an issue 3.5 years later is disgusting on the devs part. More penalties and harsher punishment for leaving. How long are you gonna let players control your games health.
- people who just generally suck at the game. We spend 10-15 minutes looting across the map and the first team fight happens and they are immediately dead. Games over. We wasted 15 mins for nothing. I look at their damage, 19 or some nonsense number. Why are these people in my game???? If they’re struggling to deal more than a melee worth of damage they are clearly not good. Dont even get me started on the people who somehow do 0 damage. Like how is it even possible. I say insta-ban for 1 day anyone who deals 0 damage in a game.

- 3rd partying. I swear every new map addition and change has only gotten worse with regards to being 3rd partied. It literally feels like if you ever take a fight with another squad there will be another 1-2 squads on their way. Why has this still not been addressed in 3.5 years??? Why have we made no effort to reduce the ability to 3rd party with better map design and reduced the sound effect and reverberation of gunshots. Why can you hear a teamfight breaking out from half way across the map???? Why have we not introduced some kind of team fight reset system after a team fight is won. Ie. If you wipe an entire squad, all your squads body shields are instantly restored to 100%. So you win a team fight and are immediately ready for the next one. It just results in a bad feeling when 1 team wins a team fight and before they can heal up and get ammo, another squad has heard the shots from miles and arrived when your team are still weak. Its stupid
- poor loot distribution. Why does it always take me 1-2 minutes to find good gear? I can open 10 supply bins and will get a p2020, some attachments, some sniper ammo, a white body shield, a white knockdown shield and some arc stars. Whilst an enemy opens 1 supply bin and gets a purple body shield and a r301. What gives????
Why are there still trash guns in this game like the mozambique and the p2020. Without hammerpoints these guns are useless. Remove them from the loot floor or buff them so we can have more consistent loot. I shouldnt feel scammed out of games because i drop and all i get is a p2020 and there is nothing i can do with this whilst an enemy gets a flatline.
Why are white body shields on the ground when everyone starts with one now???? Why are purple body shields still available on the ground???? The Only shields in the game should be the evo shields everyone spawns with and the gold body shield in vaults/trials since you have to actually go out of your way to get it etc. no one should be able to drop and immediately grab an extra 50hp because of luck. all other body shields should be removed from ground loot. If you want a better body shield and more health, earn it by levelling up yours or by killing and stealing someone who has a higher one than yours.

why can we not implement some kind of safeguard loot system into supply bins so its guaranteed to spawn 1 weapon per bin.

- trash challenges. Why are challenges still split between battle royale and nonBR. Just allow all challenges to be done in any mode the player chooses to play. Yes, some will be easier in some modes than others. Yes, some will be harder in some modes than others. Yes, some will be impossible in some modes compared to others. But…. Who cares???? Just let people play how they want to play and stop trying to dictate how they should play. You already try to force people to play certain weapons and legends. When is enough enough? Maybe i just want to play 1 legend. Why am i punished for doing so.
- battle pass quality. Just me or has the battle pass contents become worse over time. Its just filled with the same old rare recolours that no one uses. The same old trackers no one uses. More gun charms when they cant even add a new gun every season to put them on. All the good content, skins & emotes, are few and far between. Imo the battle pass needs a complete rehaul because compared to other games it lacks in quality. There needs to be new cosmetic types added, not stickers 🙃 actually meaningful cosmetic types. Why have we still not got the ability to customise grenades? Why can we not get a thermite skin?

- speaking of grenades. Any new grenades/items? 3.5 years and the item pool has barely changed. Why have we not got new healing items, new utility items, new grenade types. Its just the same old boring old grenades. Only additions have been support items with the heatshield and mobile respawn beacon. People barely use them because they are so niche. Why can we not have a freeze grenade? Or a flash grenade? Or a recon grenade? Trip wires we can place down on doorways to cover routes. A healing item that does a bit of shield and health? A healing item that temporarily increases your health? So many interesting ideas and we are still stuck with the same stuff season after season.

this game could be so good but the devs seem incredibly lazy and do the bare minimum per season. The last 3 seasons have shown this. 1 new legend, barely any map changes, no weapon. Bland boring trash

15 Replies

SlivPTS
4 years ago
Yes, that's how this matchmaking works. It makes squad from 1 strong/average player and then adds 2 low skill players. And if you are not doing 80% of damage, then your squad is dead.
Randoms teammates are good only in 3 things:
1) picking legend you want to play with
2) landing on the same building and stealing loot
3) stealing kills
Asmodeus566
Hero+
4 years ago
@SlivPTS wrote:
Randoms teammates are good only in 3 things:
1) picking legend you want to play with
2) landing on the same building and stealing loot
3) stealing kills
Such generalizations without real foundation. The woes of the solo player in a team based game.
Those that pick first pick first I am sure they equally complain when you pick their legend. That's why one should diversify what they can play.
Loot is for all, but maybe speak with your randoms it helps.
Stealing kills, first you mention they do not help and just die and then you mention they finish up a kill you started, sounds like helping to me.
I have played more good games with randoms than bad, with or without Mic coms, however communication is key and if you do not use the mic the ping system works well.
Maybe it is not them but you, try to play to their style and if that does not work, then play your game. If the randoms are a bit slow and play defensive maybe you should to because I am sure they hate it when one of their randoms solo pushes and gets boxed and they are not able to help because you separated to far from them.
I do agree that there are Randoms that are next to no help but that is part of Solo Q-ing, try finding 1-2 players to play with regularly and it mitigates those issues.
The game is tough and solo Q-ing can and is tougher.
I wish you the best of Luck in the new season and hope that your randoms are better.
Wildcard2182
Rising Traveler
4 years ago
As someone who just picked up the game and got the crap kicked of me every game, my bright spot at the end of the tunnel was, get to level 10 so I could play against my own skill level. Made it to lvl10 and first game I get a 300+ lol player, who proceeded to call me and the other teammate "dogwater" after we died. After 8 more matches or getting obliterated by players 10x, 20x, 30x, higher levels than my player. I threw in the towel. I felt bad for the high level player that was teamed with me. If the object is to keep new players out. Congrats! You succeeded here. I'll take my 0-43 record and call it quits. For all the high level players that got stuck with me. Sorry, and you won't have that problem ever again.
Asmodeus566
Hero+
4 years ago
@Wildcard2182
Hi there and welcome to the forum.
Just so you know Lvl does not fully translate into skill, it just means they have played that much. Now they will have some skills that other new plyers do not have yet like map skills and possibly rotation skills, but they may actually be at you skill level as it pertains to gun skills winning etc.
I am Lvl 500+ but I fell that I am an average player maybe a little above average, I have never made it past Plat 4 in Ranked and usually am in Gold 1 or 2. My gun skills are def average, However I play with a premade team and they are the gunners and I have the Map rotation skills and will call the rotations (IGL the team) and when to Push or disengage a bad fight to reset our position. Have a good IGL is paramount to winning.
Do not let others get you down and if they are harassing you report them.
The game has a steep learning curve for beginners, especially those that are new to FPS games. It may take till you reach about Lvl 100 to really get the feel of the maps etc, the gun skills come with practice.
Even really good players have tough times especially when solo Q'ing. There is one player that is a low masters player that is struggling to put wins up lately. It happens to all of us.
I have about a 3-5% win rate per season and that is hard to do, a lot of players sit at about 2%. Think about that, that is winning 2 in 100 games.
Do not give up unless you are absolutely not having fun that is.
Daze623
4 years ago
@Asmodeus566I disagree
Level does have a huge factor in ones skill even if you're not mechanically gifted you're still more experienced and know more about the game than the new players. Level should be taken into consideration in pub matchmaking(atleast for the first 100 levels so they can learn the game along side other players that are learning the game too). Obviously smurfing would be an issue but then again what's new?
HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@RockScorpion384The SBMM is worse than ever this season. I finally got my KDR over 1.0 after 4 seasons, drop into S14, and proceed to get the ever loving crap kicked out of me for 25 games. You have a record number of people online so you should have more people of similar skill to make lobbies out of, but we get this complete mess instead. I get people way worse than me on my squad and get matched up against 3 stacks I have no chance against. I go 10 to 15 games getting absolutely obliterated and NOTHING CHANGES!!!! WTAF, Respawn?

As long as it goes this way, I will be that guy who quits to lobby ASAP when I roll up on an unsuspecting squad, starts firing, and gets insta-killed by all 3 who turn in perfect unison and don't miss me as I strafe like crazy. Or when I happen to be the only person getting shot in my squad repeatedly for an entire game. Or when I lose a 1v1 despite having a shield advantage and getting the jump on someone. All of those things have happened to me multiple times already this season and I've just about had it.
Asmodeus566
Hero+
4 years ago
@HappyHourSumwur
Sounds rough man.
I seem to be having a different experience. Ok I will admit it is only a small sample size of 21 games of which 14 of them have been with friends.
As for the other seven games that I solo Q'ed I had mostly decent teammates, did not win any matches but placed top 10 in all of them and top 5 in three. Getting decent amount of Dmg, kills and even more assists. I do get lasered every once in a while but teammates have gotten me back and we drive on. I can not complain to much as of yet.
Tonight will be the litmus test as I will play with friends for about 4 hrs and then Solo Q for another 2. After that I might be feeling like you or it might just be the same for me.
One caveat though, I am not playing at Plat and higher lobbies so that might make a big difference.
Best of luck in the Outlands.
ZigoSid
4 years ago
Same here, Silver 1, Plat IV season 13, lvl 504.

Matchmade with Bronze IV, whith no ranks/Bronze season 13, lvl 25 or less.

What's the meaning of all those ranks and levels in the end if the game simply don't care ?
RockScorpion384
4 years ago
I just cannot enjoy the game in its current state. Every match has one of the same handful of problems and there seems to be no intent to fix them.
- being matched with brand new players. It sucks for them when they are put in matches with people way better than them and its just a bloodbath, having expectations for them to be good when they wont be. It sucks for me as i am forced to do all the work if we stand any chance to win. I have to sweat every single game otherwise we get nowhere. It’s literally fun for no one.

- Being matched with people who just drop by themselves, run in by themselves and immediately die, then disconnect. And I’m expected to be able to carry these kinds of games. If they happened 1 in 20+ games it wouldnt be an issue. But it happens 1 in every 2-3 games, to the point where i wonder why i even bother to queue up every time. It isnt fun to have your game immediately Ruined cus some kid just wanted to do their own thing. The fact this still is an issue 3.5 years later is disgusting on the devs part. More penalties and harsher punishment for leaving. How long are you gonna let players control your games health.
- people who just generally suck at the game. We spend 10-15 minutes looting across the map and the first team fight happens and they are immediately dead. Games over. We wasted 15 mins for nothing. I look at their damage, 19 or some nonsense number. Why are these people in my game???? If they’re struggling to deal more than a melee worth of damage they are clearly not good. Dont even get me started on the people who somehow do 0 damage. Like how is it even possible. I say insta-ban for 1 day anyone who deals 0 damage in a game.

- 3rd partying. I swear every new map addition and change has only gotten worse with regards to being 3rd partied. It literally feels like if you ever take a fight with another squad there will be another 1-2 squads on their way. Why has this still not been addressed in 3.5 years??? Why have we made no effort to reduce the ability to 3rd party with better map design and reduced the sound effect and reverberation of gunshots. Why can you hear a teamfight breaking out from half way across the map???? Why have we not introduced some kind of team fight reset system after a team fight is won. Ie. If you wipe an entire squad, all your squads body shields are instantly restored to 100%. So you win a team fight and are immediately ready for the next one. It just results in a bad feeling when 1 team wins a team fight and before they can heal up and get ammo, another squad has heard the shots from miles and arrived when your team are still weak. Its stupid
- poor loot distribution. Why does it always take me 1-2 minutes to find good gear? I can open 10 supply bins and will get a p2020, some attachments, some sniper ammo, a white body shield, a white knockdown shield and some arc stars. Whilst an enemy opens 1 supply bin and gets a purple body shield and a r301. What gives????
Why are there still trash guns in this game like the mozambique and the p2020. Without hammerpoints these guns are useless. Remove them from the loot floor or buff them so we can have more consistent loot. I shouldnt feel scammed out of games because i drop and all i get is a p2020 and there is nothing i can do with this whilst an enemy gets a flatline.
Why are white body shields on the ground when everyone starts with one now???? Why are purple body shields still available on the ground???? The Only shields in the game should be the evo shields everyone spawns with and the gold body shield in vaults/trials since you have to actually go out of your way to get it etc. no one should be able to drop and immediately grab an extra 50hp because of luck. all other body shields should be removed from ground loot. If you want a better body shield and more health, earn it by levelling up yours or by killing and stealing someone who has a higher one than yours.

why can we not implement some kind of safeguard loot system into supply bins so its guaranteed to spawn 1 weapon per bin.

- trash challenges. Why are challenges still split between battle royale and nonBR. Just allow all challenges to be done in any mode the player chooses to play. Yes, some will be easier in some modes than others. Yes, some will be harder in some modes than others. Yes, some will be impossible in some modes compared to others. But…. Who cares???? Just let people play how they want to play and stop trying to dictate how they should play. You already try to force people to play certain weapons and legends. When is enough enough? Maybe i just want to play 1 legend. Why am i punished for doing so.
- battle pass quality. Just me or has the battle pass contents become worse over time. Its just filled with the same old rare recolours that no one uses. The same old trackers no one uses. More gun charms when they cant even add a new gun every season to put them on. All the good content, skins & emotes, are few and far between. Imo the battle pass needs a complete rehaul because compared to other games it lacks in quality. There needs to be new cosmetic types added, not stickers 🙃 actually meaningful cosmetic types. Why have we still not got the ability to customise grenades? Why can we not get a thermite skin?

- speaking of grenades. Any new grenades/items? 3.5 years and the item pool has barely changed. Why have we not got new healing items, new utility items, new grenade types. Its just the same old boring old grenades. Only additions have been support items with the heatshield and mobile respawn beacon. People barely use them because they are so niche. Why can we not have a freeze grenade? Or a flash grenade? Or a recon grenade? Trip wires we can place down on doorways to cover routes. A healing item that does a bit of shield and health? A healing item that temporarily increases your health? So many interesting ideas and we are still stuck with the same stuff season after season.

this game could be so good but the devs seem incredibly lazy and do the bare minimum per season. The last 3 seasons have shown this. 1 new legend, barely any map changes, no weapon. Bland boring trash
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@RockScorpion384 Almost all of those are valid points. Just want to point out that white shields are still on the ground for quick shield swaps. It saved me a couple of times especially early game. There was a new ordinate (grenade) in the works called a cryo grenade (it's a thermite but it's ice) but was scrapped. As for the weapons there was a weapon to be introduced last season but was cancelled last minute.

Good luck. 🙂