I should've posted this earlier but this is about matchmaking in Apex and how it is constantly changing, using different variables to determine what type of lobbies you get into. I feel like Respawn is testing different variations of MM in order to gather data about player engagement. IMO, I think they should just implement SBMM and continue to update the game with new content, in order to retain players. It's kind of silly for them to mess with MM in order to improve retention, when it is upsetting players. I also feel like their MM is affecting (delaying) us from getting into games quicker, since it has to process MM data and has to be selective of what kind of lobbies you get into. How Skill Based Matchmaking Is CHANGING in Apex Legends - YouTube

Without trying to sound unkind, this particular "news" source will post just about any cocked up theory from some b-list players tweet and spin it into what Respawn is doing next week. Pure clickbait IMO. I'm not going to watch his full-length video in order to see what this one is based on, it's just my general opinion.

@swift07 I can tell them which one is the best. Sadly, I've never caught them test that exact system. It's the system where, when they want me to fight Diamond+ teams, they give me Diamond+ teammates to fight them with!

@CCbathwater yeah, that would be great if the fight was somewhat even. Instead of the teammates that are under level 50, then dying to a stacked team with diamond to pred badges and/or 4k and 20 bomb badges.

Following up on yesterdays post, I played a session with "the boys" today, my two also mediocre-playing friends. I played on my smurf account, which has not been puffing up stats playing gun run, and it was the opposite of yesterday even though yesterday I was solo q and today we were three stacked. We got what I must deem bot lobbies, i got over ten kills in about 45 minutes and we ended on what was for me a six-kill win. Not sure what it all means, but food for thought. My pocketbook would like to think it's because my new Scuf Reflex arrived today, lololol. Seriously, though, I've had three custom controllers now and this one is the best one yet.

@swift07I thought this would be a good place to share my recent finding pertaining to a matchmaking change.You can no longer descend the matchmaking ladder by leaving the game during the game’s initial skydive. Some people were using this strategy to expedite the process of getting easier lobbies (while simultaneously preserving their KD). Based on tests that I have run across a few accounts this week, you actually have to die now to have “easier” lobbies.This change is very likely from the latest patch. I’d say this is a good change. People will still lose on purpose to avoid the Master Pred Pub lobbies, but at least this comes at the expense of their KD.I encourage people to test matchmaking for themselves— the more we all know collaboratively, the better in my opinion.

MM is Constantly Changing | EA Forums

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HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@swift07 Probably, but they'll never say anything about it. It's a big secret, don't you know?
swift07
3 years ago
@HappyHourSumwur yeah, they don't provide us with much information. Something that the playerbase has been asking for.
Apyhs
3 years ago
Yeah, its all like someone heard someone was saying...
pure Broscience, no facts
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@swift07 It's an algorithm where values can be tweaked. People love to try things and will do so. I'm confused as to why it is news......then realize J must have had a slow reporting day, which happens when you feel the need to make a daily video.
XxColdFangxX
3 years ago
@swift07 I'd like to know what variables their using to stick me in lobbies with people that get 4k damage.
I do better in areans than br but even then my highest damage was 1k
pandareno1999
Hero+
3 years ago
Without trying to sound unkind, this particular "news" source will post just about any cocked up theory from some b-list players tweet and spin it into what Respawn is doing next week. Pure clickbait IMO. I'm not going to watch his full-length video in order to see what this one is based on, it's just my general opinion.
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@pandareno1999 In this case your opinion is in total agreement with mine.
swift07
3 years ago
@pandareno1999 A dev from Respawn literally says it
pandareno1999
Hero+
3 years ago
@swift07

Sorry if I gave you the impression that I don't think the MM is constantly evolving. I'm aware of the video, I see daily what these guys post and will hover over them for a bit to see if they might actually deliver something of interest. I just don't like the Apex "news" sources, basically. It's just my opinion, based on the way these sources usually operate. They have to produce something daily, and more often than not, it's simply trumped up drama or taking some tiny thing from a dev tweet and spinning an imaginative story around it about what "might be coming to Apex." It gets tiring and I generally just don't watch it anymore.

Sorry to post so long on this, I just wanted to explain myself and not have you feel that I was belittling the point of your thread, which is fine . If you google "apex dev tweet on matchmaker" you can find all kinds of things they've said about the MM going back years, often referring to the fact that the matchmaker does, in fact, evolve. I just prefer getting my information in a different way that Apex news youtube videos. I've gone off topic too far, let's go back to your actual discussion, which is interesting.
swift07
3 years ago
@pandareno1999 lol you're good man. I wouldn't post it on here if it was some BS click bait. So apparently it's not just one MM system running, but many different types of MM alternating. I'm guessing that they are trying to get data by using various different MM, to see how people react.