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EshiNone
2 years ago
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Where are the bans for gamepad emulators, such as: Reasnow, Cronus, Xim 

If this is officially allowed, I’m ready to place an order and sit and play with AA on the mouse

The new anti-cheat still doesn’t give bans for this ( Season 21... )

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  • EshiNone's avatar
    EshiNone
    2 years ago
    I still don’t see any clear answer, moderators, solve the issue, find out if you yourself can’t say anything on your own

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  • MostlyDontCare's avatar
    MostlyDontCare
    Seasoned Scout
    2 years ago
    @EshiNone wrote:

    Where are the bans for gamepad emulators, such as: Reasnow, Cronus, Xim 

    If this is officially allowed, I’m ready to place an order and sit and play with AA on the mouse

    The new anti-cheat still doesn’t give bans for this ( Season 21... )

    The problem isn't emulators, it's that Aim Assist is so strong that people are willing to play like that. Have you ever tried one of those things? It's not fun, and they feel awful to use.

    You can't even use a controller if you have any of those installed on your computer. Which is a dumb lazy fix, because you can use them for all sorts of applications, not just for FPS games. Which I have to reiterate, isn't fun.

    Cheating is a huge issue, but tired of people complaining about emulators. Then nerf Aim Assist already!

  • apetitiporkill's avatar
    apetitiporkill
    Seasoned Novice
    2 years ago
    @VersusGravity man, the control and aim assist is not the real problem, the real problem is the mouse and keyboard with aim assist, after all... the control needs aim assist, the mouse and keyboard even without aim assist, that's it. strong, and the proof of this is the ALGS, where mouse and keyboard players killed 2 control players with aim assist, and what's more, the mouse and keyboard with aim assist is 10 times stronger than a control with aim assist.
  • EshiNone's avatar
    EshiNone
    2 years ago
    @VersusGravity The gamepad has AA because it is a more complex and weaker device compared to a mouse, but for some reason you are trying to justify the presence of AA on the mouse by the fact that the gamepad also has it о.О There should either be a ban for this, or I will use it like the majority. The developer already made a mistake with rewasd when more than half of the players started playing with it, and now he is doing the same thing, without banning those players who understood what AA is on a mouse and went to buy emulators. I don’t see the point in sticking to fair play when the developer himself doesn’t care what players play with in his product
  • MostlyDontCare's avatar
    MostlyDontCare
    Seasoned Scout
    2 years ago
    @apetitiporkill Doesn't work like that. Try it for yourself. The mouse is constrained by the fact it's emulating a controller stick. It doesn't feel like a regular mouse. It's awful.

    Aim assist using a xim is the same as having it on a controller. The people you're complaining about are just cheaters. They're not even bothering trying to be legit using reWASD or a Xim.

    Cheating and over-tuned aim assist is the problem. A mouse emulating a controller is not.

    To compete at that level with a mouse, you have to have near perfect aim. We're not talking about average players. These guys are not human. Ever watch Aceu or like Enders who plays Battlefield games. It's unnatural, but they're not your average players.
  • MostlyDontCare's avatar
    MostlyDontCare
    Seasoned Scout
    2 years ago

    @EshiNoneYou guys have no idea what it's like to use one of these emulators. You're blowing it out of proportion. It's really not that great. I haven't really used it in Apex, besides messing around in the firing range. It sucks, but there is something up with Aim assist giving better hit registration, or like bullet magnetism. It's really weird.

    Controllers may need assistance, but they don't need to compete with Mice. You're taking an inferior input and trying to match to the better one. Why should controllers be on par/even with mice?! Fair would be for no one to have aim assist at all! Since that's not going to happen, then aim assist should be tuned down a bit, or the different inputs should be separated.

    Controller players feel entitled to compete with MnK players these days for some weird reason. It's ruining FPS games. Learn to use a mouse then if you want to be the best in any given FPS game.

  • EshiNone's avatar
    EshiNone
    2 years ago
    @VersusGravity Yes, none of us have any idea what it is (sarcasm), because we don’t communicate with people who have switched to it, we don’t see the number of players who use it, so yes, of course we don’t know how it is there (sarcasm )
    My friend, I am aware of how it works and how effective it is, down to the smallest detail. Therefore, you should not bet on the fact that “you don’t understand anything”
    Take any other battle royale as an example and you will see that they banned the use of these devices years earlier and punish attempts to use them with a ban.
    Speaking about the fact that AA is strong, it needs to be made weaker, I can safely and confidently conclude that you have no idea how it works, and those who most likely kill you and you think “again a player on a gamepad” this is most likely 90% will be a player on the emulator, after which you will be confident that you are right, go and talk about how AA is strong, without attaching any importance to the fact that you were killed by a player with AA on a mouse and not a gamepad

    But again, if these devices are legal, and the developer approves of it, I want to use it too. So I would like to know some official position, otherwise it turns out that some people use this to gain an advantage, and some other players do not know that this can be used.
  • EshiNone's avatar
    EshiNone
    2 years ago
    I still don’t see any clear answer, moderators, solve the issue, find out if you yourself can’t say anything on your own