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SloppyDango's avatar
2 years ago

Pad Aim-assist is too much...

I'm not a guru, just a very experienced player and i'd love to hear everyone's opionion but let me share some thoughts first...

It is not rare to be perfeclty tracked down during a gunfight and it is frustrating knowing how hard you have to train with the mouse to keep a correct aim on a target. I played fps costantly for 10 years (mostly overwatch, apex, valorant, cod) and i would say that i am getting good just during the past 2/3 years. i spent hundreds of hours in Aim lab cause when you want to be precise with mouse you gotta stick to the training until you use it like it is an extention of your arm, i am not kidding, it is all about muscle memory and developing it correclty. You start finding your right sens (with some rules, like it has to be low to be accurate on long shots etc etc) then you stick with that sens on every single game to keep the muscle memory in a good status. You train flick shots, tracking targets in movement... some proplayers gave me some exercises to reduce the hand's micromovement to be as still as possible when need it. 

Now... after all the dedication i put in this, i can see players low level, low ranking, less experienced than me, tracking me down smootly because they are using a pad. If you look on youtube aim guides for apex the big part of them talks more about settings than actually improving, on the other hand the mouse guides can all be synthetized with a "git gud" and there is no settings except the sensibility that you can manage to improve your performance. I met 2 predators and many other master players in my life and everyone told me that i HAVE to start using controller if i wanna try to reach the higher ranks, because mouse is actually a limitation. I understand the gamepad's limitation, cause an analog stick would never be good to perform a Flickshot but it just fells unfair to me to be killed by a less experienced player just because the system gives him a huge help in keeping the gun pointed at me. 

I was very untolerant about the use of the XIM but i started thinking; why can't i use the bonus that ever controller player get? if this is the situation i kinda find it more fair if everyone has aim assist instead to struggle more than others just because i like playing with mouse and keyboard

I just want Respawn to take a look at this unbalanced situation (in my opinion at least) and try to reduce the aim assists' range activation, or just his efficiency against targets in movement. 

Now just to be clear, i don't want to * anybody off, i'm openminded enough to accept to be denied but at least i need to hear the reason why it has to be like this.

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  • @SloppyDangoModern aim assist is insulting in many games. I have a high end mouse, pad, keyboard, monitor, PC, and I use competitive settings for everything. Then you have someone on a 60hz monitor with a controller, and their tracking is just perfect. Thousand of hours playing with MnK, hours researching, finding the best mouse pad, and so on. It's insulting.

    Like you said, every high ranked player I've encountered and get paired up with, they all say the same thing, "switch to a controller if you want to climb". What's the incentive to get better with a mouse if you use both? I've had plenty of friends that tried to switch to MnK, but they always revert back to a controller, simply because it's a lot easier to be consistent.

    I could write a novel why this is all such BS, but at the end of the day, it's about sales. People seem to be happy with playing shooters with controllers on PC with a ton of assist?! I just don't get it...

  • r1ggedgame's avatar
    r1ggedgame
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @RaginSamAim Assist and Matchmaking was the reason for 95% of my friends to quit the game ...
    Apex WAS a great game ... Pre-Crossplay ... nobody complained about Assists, missing Footsteps, the Matchmaking. Most of the complaints were about the server quality, especially on patch day.
    I remember those nice Co-Op Modes, everybody was hyped up on the new Season Trailer ... It all went downhill from there

  • yup we really need input lobbies or disabled aim assist in ranked mode like any decent fps/br.

    sadly respawn never cared about fair matchmaking.

  • r1ggedgame's avatar
    r1ggedgame
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @WTF_Huitzo
    At least they finally got rid of the text saying : "Compete against similar skilled opponents" 😉
    i cant help laughing every time, when someone at Respawn uses the term "competitive integrity" on twitter ... when even THE Pro Player switching back to MnK nearly throwing a tamper tantrum, other MnK Pros leaving Apex for good , a whole MnK Pro Team naming themselves "40% worse" ... gimme a break !
    At the people at Respawn : Just stop using that term ... it makes you look like fools.

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