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- HappyHourSumwur4 years agoSeasoned Ace
it isn't about the frequency of wins for me, but about the quality of losses. I get melted in milliseconds by the first enemy/squad I see way to often. Honestly, that is 80% of the time for me.
I've had fun games where we ended up in 8th or 12th (get 2or 3 kills and actually survive a gunfight or 2) and horrible games where we came in 3rd (run around looting for 10 minutes and die to a 3 stack with red shields in milliseconds). I'm OK with dying if you feel like you had a chance or because you know you did something dumb but I absolutely hate dying repeatedly when you feel like you had absolutely no chance. That's Apex for me, a Gold level trash can.
- @SlivPTS That isn't how it works for me at all with regards to winning and win rate. For me win rate is very closely related to playstyle. Less aggressive = more wins, less kills. More aggressive = less wins but more kills.
@hayhorof course you would say this, though true, to some extent, big maybe depending. But playing "cowardly" is not an option really. We play. That's it. Anyone could win by camping like a loser all the time until final ring with the right weapons/armor.
Now you can go and collect your paycheck from ea, hayhor.
do we play the same game even? Is this what you consider playing a good game normally? You earned nothing. Caustic vibes makes sense now.
oh, and now you can run and report me too.....
- @Sand_spitter I can't help it my experience is different than yours. Not sure why you cannot understand that. I have data that backs up my win rates relation playstyle. Yes, lobbies make a difference too but blaming 1 3 stack of masters and preds in the lobby isn't correct either. Dropping hot over and over will result in a lower win rate than others who take fights smarter.
So in the last two weeks since you posted this I have played 2 four hr sessions and 1 one hour session. However I played a mix of ranked BR and Arenas so out of the 9 hrs I will say 5 of them were ranked BR games.
In that five hours I won 3 games placed top 5 in about 40% with top 3 being another 10%, about 15 % of my games were 11-20th place.
And quite a few of the top 3 placements were winnable but either I or one of my friends made a boneheaded mistake, decision or we miscued on the execution of a push/re-set.
Winning games is hard work, but who cares really? I was having a blast 98% of that time and having fun is what really counts, at least to me, the win is icing on the cake. Do not get me wrong here though, I am competitive and am always trying to improve my game as well as helping my friends improve.
@HappyHourSumwur wrote:it isn't about the frequency of wins for me, but about the quality of losses. I get melted in milliseconds by the first enemy/squad I see way to often. Honestly, that is 80% of the time for me.
I've had fun games where we ended up in 8th or 12th (get 2or 3 kills and actually survive a gunfight or 2) and horrible games where we came in 3rd (run around looting for 10 minutes and die to a 3 stack with red shields in milliseconds). I'm OK with dying if you feel like you had a chance or because you know you did something dumb but I absolutely hate dying repeatedly when you feel like you had absolutely no chance. That's Apex for me, a Gold level trash can.
Darn that’s a great statement that I agree 100%. I don’t mind losing to a well matched enemy but my friends and I being melted even with purple shields isn’t fun.
On the topic of SBMM again. Honestly, I think the game doesn’t look into your level, rank, or even KDR. It’s purely just based from your recent games played.
@Cheese9ManI can assure you that this doesn’t apply to all accounts. I can lose multiple games in a row with zero damage and zero kills and still get consistently dropped in lobbies that are all Diamond and up.
This isn’t the case on my other accounts (these accounts are created to specifically test matchmaking).
Perhaps this is a product of games played. As of this writing, I currently have exactly 29,536 games played on my main account. This is the account I play ranked on and its the account that I try my absolute hardest on to win. It’s also the account that is literally hardstuck playing diamonds, masters and preds in pubs. I would probably win a bunch more if the algorithm dropped me down in lobbies with average skilled players but that simply isn’t happening.
But on my other accounts it is EXACTLY as you say, influenced heavily by recency. It seems the algorithm is putting a hard emphasis on making the game forgiving for newer players.Look it sucks being above average and not being able to win, but I’ve come to accept that it’s probably better for the health of the game. What I need is some kind of reward for being in this situation. I’m willing to lose all my matches to Masters and Preds for the betterment of the community, but basic human psychology (and I am a clinical psychologist) suggests that motivation is maximized by POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT and reward. It sort of drives me crazy that some people actually believe rewards and outcomes should be equalized to ensure happiness and enjoyment are evenly spread amongst the skill levels.
- @Axs5626Sxa5001 I believe in your findings and your dedication to crack the code of SBMM. As there aren’t many players here in your level, what does reddit say about this with players with a similar skill level? I’m sorry if I missed your suggestion on what SBMM should be in your past posts but what do you suggest? Do you suggest being placed in maybe plat-diamond players?
My game session with my friends today were awful being placed with three stacking masters and preds. Didn’t win a single trios game and only won in flashpoint.
Clinical psych was my real plan B if I didn’t pursue medicine (undergrad degree in Psychology). - Kyldenar4 years agoSeasoned Ace@Axs5626Sxa5001 Don't recall exactly, like, 3? 4 weeks?
I came in close second with a team yesterday, but our Ash+Loba+Mirage had no chance against a Wraith+Gibby+Bangalore team when they all had Ults ready in final ring.
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