How are you guys doing with the new matchmaking?I can’t seem to beat the top 1%, so my experience this season has been significantly disenchanting. My pubs went from 90% (real) Masters/Preds to 99% Masters/Preds.I have plenty of friends in the below-average to average range who are having good games and winning.Any tips?

@Twizted3k_tvYou ever work overtime and get a check that’s actually less than people who worked less (due to taxes). That’s the feeling of matchmaking right now for above average players, lol.

@hayhor Let's not forget some made it to masters doing 0 damage at all.

@el7uarvszheo wrote:It is almost impossible to play 214 games and not get a win, even you are the worst player on the planet you can get carried, unless:You think you are pro level player and hot dropping and try to send the lobby and leave the game after getting knocked. Bad news for you if you are not already good enough to do that after 1000 hours you will never get that good it has nothing to do with matchmaking. Just try to play like an average player and you will get wins. Never think that those streamers you watch are the 1%, they are like 0.01%. Not everyone has the skill to do that. You just want a lobby full of lower skilled players than you so you can feel the illusion that you are good at the game. I don't think that's the case here. The OP is extremely good at the game. They're just at the middle of the top of the top.I'm in a similar situation but a very different bucket. I am too good for the lower bucket and not good enough for the next one up.This season I have been having fun, though (so far) because even though I'm never as good as the winning team (especially since I only queue solo), I am as good as many of the other players in the lobby. So I die, but I also get a few kills, which makes me enjoy the match far more than in the past. I am MVP many times, too, even though I never win, so that's good, I guess (I think that mostly comes from hidden "points" I get for pinging enemies, as if that makes me skilled.)

@el7uarvszheoI’m pretty disappointed in your response. Even still, I mean no disrespect.I have and will continue to share my experience and matchmaking findings here on the forum. Maybe you’re unaware, but I have shared multiple experiments—across multiple account types, here on the forum.When I play at full capacity, I occupy the top bucket of players (in pubs). Let me make this clear:If a matchmaking system does not allow for downward mobility (losing matches grants easier lobbies), you end up locking players at the bottom of a bucket into a “fixed situation” where the rest of the people in said bucket beat them consistently.Stay with me….I have hit Masters every split except 3-4. I have solo queue twice to Masters. I am not great (Pred level), but I am certainly above average. The issue is: matchmaking drops me in the top bucket and I’m exclusively playing Preds and better Masters. So I (and plenty of other players) are locked into a situation where we lose more BECAUSE we are above average.I don’t want to bully weaker players consistently, LMAO. That would be so lame. But I also don’t want outcomes that are similar to (and in some instances worse than) people who are less proficient than me. I think this is a TOTAL SANE AND FAIR expectation. Your outcomes should be in direct correspondence to your skill level (as it deviates from the average/median skill).

@Axs5626Sxa5001 wrote:How are you guys doing with the new matchmaking?I can’t seem to beat the top 1%, so my experience this season has been significantly disenchanting. My pubs went from 90% (real) Masters/Preds to 99% Masters/Preds.I have plenty of friends in the below-average to average range who are having good games and winning.Any tips?How is your K/D this season so far?Are wins the most important factor to you for "success?"I've been having fun because my opponents have been closer to my skill level (possibly closer to my region as well, since ping seems lower), so I finally have a K/D of 0.75 instead of 0.25. I enjoy that way more, even though I still haven't won any matches (in BR).

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26 Replies

HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001My first 10 matches (all solo queue Trios) were hell on earth. Then it felt like MM kicked in and things got "better". Not sure if this is the new MM discussed in the mythical blog post or not, so I'm reserving judgement for when I have a lot more games played.

Last season it took me over 50 games to get my first win. This season I have 2 wins in my first 30 games.
As far as advice goes, I'm a solid 1.0 KDR player so I don't think I'm good enough to give advice. Honestly, I feel like I'm a trash can at this game.
LaughingSharko
2 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 wrote:
How are you guys doing with the new matchmaking?
I can’t seem to beat the top 1%, so my experience this season has been significantly disenchanting. My pubs went from 90% (real) Masters/Preds to 99% Masters/Preds.
I have plenty of friends in the below-average to average range who are having good games and winning.
Any tips?
How is your K/D this season so far?
Are wins the most important factor to you for "success?"
I've been having fun because my opponents have been closer to my skill level (possibly closer to my region as well, since ping seems lower), so I finally have a K/D of 0.75 instead of 0.25. I enjoy that way more, even though I still haven't won any matches (in BR).
Marge010
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
I finished with a kd of 1.4 last season and you should see the amount of masters trails this season! It is crazy how hard this season is! I've never known Apex this hard. I managed to get my kd up to 0.8 this season but it's slowly going back down.
I've played 82 games and got 0 wins so far
hbuttersmgee
2 years ago
My matchmaking has been way better this season, the fights feel more balanced and fair. My KD is usually around 1. The last two seasons were atrocious for me however, I'm not sure what happened but my KD dropped to around .7 for seasons 16 and 17
I don't know if they're using a new system on the Sydney servers, but it feels much better. My friends are playing much more too as we're not constantly getting stomped by people with higher skill
Vdstrk
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001that is a top 1% goal you set for yourself! I'm not sure I can offer any constructive advice.

So far I have successfully avoided playing a single game. I'm trying to avoid the cycle of frustration that ensues from playing apex along with no steps sound, hit registration issues, cheaters --just to name the usual offenders.
Then if some people are complaining about disconnects... oh well... another reason.

Finally, what difference does winning or losing make for the average player anyway? I would say the fun is in the process for the most (and in the process you get hit reg issue, cheaters, zenners, toxic people.... no step sound --if that is someone's definition of fun then...).
hayhor
Hero
2 years ago
@Marge010 Most of the masters trails you see now are not actual masters. If your kd was 1.4 you could have made master easy last season.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
2 years ago
@hayhor Let's not forget some made it to masters doing 0 damage at all.
el7uarvszheo
2 years ago
It is almost impossible to play 214 games and not get a win, even you are the worst player on the planet you can get carried, unless:
You think you are pro level player and hot dropping and try to send the lobby and leave the game after getting knocked. Bad news for you if you are not already good enough to do that after 1000 hours you will never get that good it has nothing to do with matchmaking. Just try to play like an average player and you will get wins. Never think that those streamers you watch are the 1%, they are like 0.01%. Not everyone has the skill to do that.
You just want a lobby full of lower skilled players than you so you can feel the illusion that you are good at the game.
LaughingSharko
2 years ago
@el7uarvszheo wrote:
It is almost impossible to play 214 games and not get a win, even you are the worst player on the planet you can get carried, unless:
You think you are pro level player and hot dropping and try to send the lobby and leave the game after getting knocked. Bad news for you if you are not already good enough to do that after 1000 hours you will never get that good it has nothing to do with matchmaking. Just try to play like an average player and you will get wins. Never think that those streamers you watch are the 1%, they are like 0.01%. Not everyone has the skill to do that.
You just want a lobby full of lower skilled players than you so you can feel the illusion that you are good at the game.
I don't think that's the case here. The OP is extremely good at the game. They're just at the middle of the top of the top.
I'm in a similar situation but a very different bucket. I am too good for the lower bucket and not good enough for the next one up.
This season I have been having fun, though (so far) because even though I'm never as good as the winning team (especially since I only queue solo), I am as good as many of the other players in the lobby. So I die, but I also get a few kills, which makes me enjoy the match far more than in the past. I am MVP many times, too, even though I never win, so that's good, I guess (I think that mostly comes from hidden "points" I get for pinging enemies, as if that makes me skilled.)
hayhor
Hero
2 years ago
@el7uarvszheo Not sure why you think he would be lying. The lobbies he describes do exist. Season 13 I was in them. I had good teammates every game but every single person in the lobby had all the badges and trails. It was by far the hardest season I've ever had to get wins. Thankfully the game has realized I'm not at that level.