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Re: Another MnK vs Controller thread (Developer addresses the issue)

@SHIZNICKMASTA It isn't a big advantage. That's my point. It levels the field. It is easier to aim with a mouse. Aim assist exists only because of this. The devs want controller players to be competitive with mnk. And based on the data I've seen, it's working almost perfectly.

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  • @hayhor as the data u saw it works almost perfectly? did u notice that they lowered the console aim assist to 0,4 like pc at the algs? they collected this informations at the algs btw. console aim assist need to be permanently 0,4 since next gen consoles came out. 0.6 aim assist is way too much with a ps5 and perm 60fps
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
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    4 years ago
    @Zynreal They did that so people wouldn't complain. I've tried both and don't notice much difference. They can change it for all I care.
  • what "data" have you seen? post a link or it doesn't exist. * reddit statistics don't count unless its verifiable and not just thrown together by someone with too much free time.

  • Kyldenar's avatar
    Kyldenar
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    I play Controller on PC because comfort and carpal tunnel.

    I know for a fact the "aim assist" is no advantage. In a close up fight, M&K beats me 90% of the time.

    People complaining about aim assist in this game have never played Destiny 2 Crucible, where all hand cannons get so much aim assist as to be laser beams. It's why the meta has almost never changed from Hand Cannon + Shotgun in D2 PvP.

    People are just looking for excuses to dying to bad movement and not using cover. I know when I die to that crap and that is on ME. Not the other player.

  • Sand_spitter's avatar
    Sand_spitter
    4 years ago
    @ShidWidley69420 The data is irrelevant really. The real issue is mixed input lobbies. People can't expect a nerf or removal of aa to a whole platform of players who never wanted to play with pc players to begin with. Why teat the symptom and not the cause?
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    hayhor
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    4 years ago
    @Kyldenar People should go back and watch the original halo warthog shoot. You could aim next to someone and you'd get a silent aim effect with some bullets hitting. 🤣
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    Zkepz
    4 years ago

    @Kyldenar wrote:

    I play Controller on PC because comfort and carpal tunnel.

    I know for a fact the "aim assist" is no advantage. In a close up fight, M&K beats me 90% of the time.

    People complaining about aim assist in this game have never played Destiny 2 Crucible, where all hand cannons get so much aim assist as to be laser beams. It's why the meta has almost never changed from Hand Cannon + Shotgun in D2 PvP.

    People are just looking for excuses to dying to bad movement and not using cover. I know when I die to that crap and that is on ME. Not the other player.


    Did you try to tune it to your prefs?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UocPK2YeIts

    This might help you get going, because you can tune it to help you quite a bit when they try strafe you. But aim assist wont help you much if youre all crap at aiming, but it helps you get stellar if youre good :D

  • @Kyldenar I suspect this is a big part of it too. Usually when you see how people play and how bad their aim is it becomes obvious where the problem lies. As long as they win all is well.
  • @Zkepz 100% I think that mnk wins a lot of the time in close range fights because they can track much easier with mouse but controller needs aim assist to be like this otherwise they are at a huge disadvantage and most controller players are at a disadvantage anyway.
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    pandareno1999
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    4 years ago

    @TSM_ItsTimmy

    I'm afraid you've got this backwards. Controller has a great advantage in point blank encounters, precisely because of aim assist. This is the heart of the complaint that MnK players have against aim assist being in the game (or, more specifically, being unable to opt out of playing against controller players on PC).

    Also, no more 55 hour streams for you, OK??  Your fans worry about your health!

    EDIT:  I found a resource to help you understand exactly how the mechanic of aim assist works in Apex.  Informed discussions are always much more fruitful!

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    pandareno1999
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    4 years ago
    @Cheese9Man Hahaha Ottr is quite the character. I used to really dislike him, but I've come to accept his flaws and appreciate what he brings to the table. I wish he didn't fall so easily into the trap of being a toxic streamer blaming things like aim assist every time he dies. He's a really smart guy with a lot of intelligent takes on Apex issues.
  • kittysune's avatar
    kittysune
    4 years ago
    @pandareno1999 is this real timmy ? i never knew he is controller user i thought he always against people who using controller because aim assist
  • No that is not the real streamer, just someone who tried to steal his alias. The real one hates aim-assist as much as the rest of us, and his alias is "iiTzTimmy". Like most good MnK players, he is mostly playing Valorant as this game isn't a MnK game (oddly, it's made for controllers).

  • pandareno1999's avatar
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    4 years ago

    @NitromethaneAP wrote:

    No that is not the real streamer, just someone who tried to steal his alias.


    OH MY GOD we've all been duped!  Thanks so much for clearing that up.

  • NitromethaneAP's avatar
    NitromethaneAP
    4 years ago

    I was watching a controller player on twitch, and what I found ironic was that every time he lost to another controller player, his comment was "oh he had a better aim-assist than me" "wtf is my aim-assist not working!" ...

    A parody between MnK vs Controller.

    Playing Apex on MnK is like being a Gladiator. You have to rely on your reaction speed, your aim, your muscle memory, and the art of knowing every combat technique and wit to overcome your enemies.

    Playing Apex on a Controller is like being a Drone pilot and most of them be like " man this is soo much harder than what the Gladiators did, we have to use our thumbs omegalulz".