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Re: Remove crouch-spam already


@apostolateofDOOM wrote:

@1ronKeysNope.

I will pretty often crouch and double/triple poke behind cover in a second.


I'm not talking about behind cover - that's why I said it should be changed in a way that impacts genuine use.

I'm talking about bouncing up and down on the spot 20 times whilst firing. It's mere exploit nothing more.

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  • @1ronKeys 

    Just because you don't want to use it or think it's "Non skillful" it doesn't mean it's an exploit.

    If you want a realistic game then go play a game that is tailored to you. stop trying to ruin a game because you deem something unskillful.

    It's a video game for crying out loud not real life. it's one of the things that makes this game fun and entertaining. 

    Sounds like you dont like playing Apex Legends at all. Because you do complain just about everything on the forum that you don't like in game and think it needs a nerf or be removed.

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    1ronKeys
    6 years ago
    @RevenanT-G7 it's literally the definition of an exploit.

    "You complain about everything you dont like" so does everyone. So don't act holier than thou.

    I hardlycall for nerfs unless jokingly.

    But this stupid exploit is one that has no place or necessity in the game. Why don't we call for extra glitches and exploits?

    Why dont we ask them to add jump-cancel where you jump up and immedaitely teleport back to the ground by pressing crouch, and have it so we can spam jump cancels indefinitely?? Because it would be stupid right? And exploited? Exactly the point I'm making.
  • i never complain about high skill caps in a game, i bet you play caustic dont you lol


  • @1ronKeys wrote:
    @RevenanT-G7it's literally the definition of an exploit.

    "You complain about everything you dont like" so does everyone. So don't act holier than thou.


    I hardlycall for nerfs unless jokingly.

    But this stupid exploit is one that has no place or necessity in the game. Why don't we call for extra glitches and exploits?

    Why dont we ask them to add jump-cancel where you jump up and immedaitely teleport back to the ground by pressing crouch, and have it so we can spam jump cancels indefinitely?? Because it would be stupid right? And exploited? Exactly the point I'm making.

    Probably because they're bad at the game. 

    I never said I was or acted like I did, so don't put words in my mouth.

    ok fine i'm not going to check all your threads.

    I didn't know you created the game?

    If the Crouching up and down wasn't intended to be in the game, it would have been gone by now just like not having prone in the game or Wall running.

    If someone crouches up and down why not just strafe on them to another side? why are you shooting Blindlessly at someone. Your complaining that you just got out played thats all it is.

    Removing this feature out at this point about 1.5 yrs out will just hurt the game, just like with all the nerf s and the removal of items / hopups. Then the next thing people will want removed is Strafing and sliding, etc.

    I just don't agree with your thread, because just like many have stated I just don't see anything wrong with it or it being an exploit.

    with being "Skillful or non Skillful"

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    1ronKeys
    6 years ago
    @RevenanT-G7 Take fifa for example ...

    Timed finishing, el tornado, croqueta, drag back, amongst many things are all actions the devs put into the game, but they can all be exploited... and everyone and their uncle asked for it to be removed.

    Just 'cause something was put in the game, doesn't mean it works as or is being used as intended, and doesn't make it any less of an exploit.

    It has nothing to do with "skill", they're all easy to do, but they are mechanics that can be misused and exploited.

    It's akin to claiming it takes skill to use aimbots. Takes zero skill.

    Just like in fifa the exploits take 0 skill to execute and don't make you "skilled" for using them, just nothing more than a cheat and a loser.
  • @1ronKeys In the end, all you need to do is aim at their legs.
    Mechanics abuse is a fuzzy situation, but this particular mechanic is closer to being full-on okay than an actual exploit. It's okay as it is. Sure, it may not be ideal for a person to play against, but you have said in previous posts that you could easily do it, but you choose not to. Plus, it isn't anything gamebreaking.
  • @1ronKeys I don't see anyone else asking for it to be removed, just you. So your whole 'Fifa uncles asked it to be removed' point is just useless.
  • Exploit - Make use of (something) in a way considered unfair or underhand.

    It is fair, everyone can do it and it is not abusing any of Respawn's TOS. It is not giving yourself an in game advantage. A person crouch spamming is just as likely to win as someone A/D strafing. But A/D strafing's an exploit, right? It is making use of a deliberate mechanic given to us in game. 

    This is kind of like saying 'I'm not gonna aim down my sights because it lets people be too accurate.'

  • So what is next ? They should nerf strafing next or slide jumps, because you obviously have bad aim and people outplay you, because of that.

    If you want a game with less movement and less skill put on movement skills, go on and play Warzone, you won`t be missed.

    No one should touch and nerf the movement in this game, no one !!!


  • @1ronKeys wrote:
    @RevenanT-G7it's literally the definition of an exploit.

    "You complain about everything you dont like" so does everyone. So don't act holier than thou.

    I hardlycall for nerfs unless jokingly.


    Dude, you literally have a concurrent thread up right now titled "Wraith needs a massive nerf" where you argue Wraith should be subject of a massive nerf, yet again, based on a singular incident where your shots didn't register. Which is a server performance issue in the first place.

    You're also definitely not joking there.

  • MandatoryIDtag's avatar
    MandatoryIDtag
    6 years ago

    @1ronKeys  I can understand and sympathise  with your frustration on this matter.

    However i don't think it is actually a cheat or an exploit if i'm honest.

    Lets look at it subjectively for a second, so it's a mechanism that's been around since the games inception, respawn are aware that it's being used as a tactic however nothing has been done to amend it, which essentially equates to respawn acknowledging it as a viable in game strategy.

    It can't be argued that they're unaware of it either as b'hop healing, another historically popular tactic was deemed as an unfair mechanism within the game and subsequently patched to no longer be possible (Unless you know the work around ;p).

    I honestly can't see anything being done to put an end to crouch spam, it's just one of those things you're going to have to accept as part of the game and counter it accordingly. 

  • @LordloshBang Except they did once. They removed bhop healing, I see why they removed it. Idk maybe I do, maybe I don't. Well, I didn't even know how to bhop at that time.
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    1ronKeys
    6 years ago
    @Sir_Named It's just stupid, looks stupid, and is attempt to exploit the game mechanics.

    Exactly it's an east mechanic to exploit. If it was difficult you could argue it's an exploit that takes skill. Still an exploit tho.

    It makes the game 1 dimensional if the main exploit or "meta" is just everyone spamming crouch, makes the game unenjoyable and look stupid.
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    1ronKeys
    6 years ago

    @LordloshBang wrote:

    So what is next ? They should nerf strafing next or slide jumps, because you obviously have bad aim and people outplay you, because of that.


     You can't spam slide jumps, and you can't spam strafing apart from an apparent glitch/hack I've seen a few people mention.

    How is my aim baf/outplayed if i kill them 9/10 times???

    Stop being a pathetic little idiot trying to accuse people of being bad at the game. 

  • @1ronKeys Bhop is basically spamming jump button combined with a crouch. It was nerfed once to remove bhop healing, but it's still here. Now people will start asking it to be removed.
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    1ronKeys
    6 years ago

    @BaldWraithSimp wrote:
    @1ronKeysBhop is basically spamming jump button combined with a crouch. It was nerfed once to remove bhop healing, but it's still here. Now people will start asking it to be removed.

    iF yOu waNt iT reMovEd u MusT jUst noT bE verY gOod

  • @1ronKeys
    But my point is it isn't a bad exploit, and it seems a majority of the community is fine with it.
    It also doesn't change the fact that you can just aim lower to counteract this.
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    Wingmannedbro
    6 years ago

    @1ronKeys wrote:
    @WingmannedbroThat's 2 threads only you * idiot.

    So you defend the fact you called for a legend you don't use yourself to be punished unfairly for a completely fabricated reason?

    And you also want crouching nerfed because you don't like to use it yourself, and want enemies to not be able to do it.

    Seems these ideas of yours are rather self serving if you ask me.

  • EA_Kent's avatar
    EA_Kent
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    6 years ago

    OK folks. 

    This thread has just turned into bickering at this point. There's no reason to take shots at one another for a difference of opinion. Let's keep things civil from now on, please. 

    I'm going to lock the thread now. 

    /Kent