Season 5 Pick Rates

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@Axs5626Sxa5001 wrote:

@apostolateofDOOMI tend to agree.
Why is the grapple hook the longest cooldown of all the “escape” tacs, when it is absolutely the most difficult to use effectively? And even once it’s “mastered”, it’s not all that much better than Loba’s bracelet or Wraith’s void— both of which have faster cooldowns. Shouldn’t we make the easy to use tac the one with the longer cooldown?

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Wraith has a 35-sec cooldown!!!!!

Pathy has a 35-sec cooldown!!!!!

35=35

Loba has 30 sec. It's five-sec difference cuz Grapple>Teleport. 

Do you want to compare Octane's cooldown with Pathfinder next??

Sorry, but NO. Its exactly a nickname. What role Revenenat or Octane have if we go by your logic? Its just a nickname for god sake.

Just because you put a scout in the name, does mean your movement ability should be 100x time better then the rest.

And you didn`t answer what professional soldier role mean then?

Bangalore has zero, ZERO pick in any competitive play. Her pick rate over high-to top level of gameplay(when they play serious), its still close to zero.

Actually the only notable streamer i watch and is maining her is ShivFPS.

I also main Bangalore. Right now Wraith and Bangalore is my main, but i`m focused on my Bangalore.

And yeah i think they should balance the other one, when they look at her. And their level should be the same as Bangalore in terms of power. 

But Bangalore actually not have team abilities that are useful. Gibralter do what she does, but he is doing it way better. Same goes for the Wraith. 
Why would you pick a Bangalore over Gibralter or over Wraith ?

Why would you pick Bloodhound, Octane or Mirage in top level plays? 

As far as Pathfinder CD nerf from 35 to 15 seconds, its that much, because Pathfinder was allowed to stay super strong for way too much time. His CD nerf should have come long way ago.

Its obvious not only from the pick rate, but from the W and K/D/R  as well. Respawn have the data and can see what is going on.

Yeah on the first look a jump from 15 to 35 seconds looks huge. 

But the thing with the Wraith is the same, but the difference is Wraith was nerfed over time, but the end product is the same. It was nerf after nerf after nerf in some times, while they allowed Pathfinder to stay way too strong for way too long, and now they bring him down.

Pathfinder grapple is insane, because it can be very powerful for a lot of situation. Examples:
You want to escape

You want to go to high ground

You want to chase

You want to push

Very useful in this situation, both are fighting behind covers, but you broke and armor and you decide to push, you just grapple above them and they won`t even notice in most of the time, and you get a lot of free shots over them. In this situation this is priceless, and can`t compare it to anyone. You can`t do that with Wraith or Loba.

And in many more ingame situation.

Majority of the people were playing Wraith and Pathfinder because they were super strong, and they still are, and they are still played.

@LordloshBang Bangalore is a professional soldier who runs fast when getting shot (I mean if I was trained in the army and getting shot at then I would run faster too) can call in an artillery strike to support and the ability to smokescreen your operations. What soldiers do in the field so it fits.

It's a description of the character, Octane is a speed demon cause he runs fast and the same with Revenant being a synthetic nightmare. How else are you to describe a robot killing machine that turns into something otherworldly. I'm not saying PF should be 100x better than the rest or the nerf wasn't justified because imo to a certain extent it was, so you don't need to explain to me what PF can do with his abilities... 😉

Your talking about role, and you still couldn`t explain the role of the legends i ask.

Yeah you can invest a story for all of the classes, but that doesn`t mean their nickname is there for a role or for some other reason, than just being a nickname.

Yeah of course they are nickname will have something to do with the legend, its obvious.

But saying Pathy should be able to be 10x more mobile than the rest of the cast, because he have a scout in his nickname is not right.

The roles are literally just a rough overview of each legends character essentially, obviously some are going to be more clear cut than others due to the nature of each legend.

Using Pathfinder as an example seeing as he manages to scout his way into most topics lately... is able to scout ahead with ease,use his passive to determine the next circle, find a create a literal path for his team with his ult.

I wouldn't treat these descriptions as a means to play each legend but it certainly does apply accurately to some.

@LordloshBangThe role of a soldier is varied just like Bangs abilities and the others explain what they do and contribute. I never said Path should.

@MandatoryIDtag''scout his way into most topics lately'' That fits his description perfectly. 😛

Ive been a path main since pre season one, when his hitbox was a truck, i agree he was cracked pre season five but 35 seconds is excessive for a character whose entire viability is valued on his mobility, there are so many characters that can rush into a 1v3 and immediately switch out. Loba w her port, same goes for wraith and oct w void and bounce respectively, both of whom are still powerful. Im fine with path being nerfed after s4, but i dont think that 35sec cd is worthwhile for a grapple, and to anyone who says its not a technical playstyle and you can just do whatever you want, SHUT UP. Path is arguably the single hardest character to get used to in the game, he forces air-strafes, the grapple launch mechanics, knowing when to bhop, knowing how to speed up a fall cooldown, all of this bcs of one slingshot boi. AND THATS ONE ABILITY. I rest my case