Apex Legends remain favorite to many players despite so many technical issues due to action packed GAMEPLAY, now Seer totally destroyed the gameplay n no small nerf gonna cut it. 1. His Passive has no counter n has no indication for you to know you are being tracked, Why was this released? 2. Knowing exact information of players for 8 seconds from position, Health n Shield shouldn't have happened.3. Canceling heals, Revives, silencing skills from a long distance n huge hitbox behind covers n walls shouldn't have happened. 4. A Zero Risk, Zero effort Ultimate that massively limits enemies movement and also gives information regardless of position even by walking around in a fast pace action packed BR. Seer doesn't need Nerf, Seer needs to be reworked entirely and it should be disabled until that rework comes ONLINE.Edited: missed Not in title lol

@WreckingVi His heartbeat scans do give off indications to enemy teams. His scanner gets louder and louder the longer he scans them which can inform a team hey a seer is tracking me i hear the heartbeat censor.Cancelling heals and res 100% needed to be a thing. There is no counter to either. There needed to be a counter for both. Gibby just fast res inside a bubble how do you counter that with people covering him? You got someone 1 shot and dont know where he ran and can hear him popping a bat. There was no way to counter that. I am a firm believer there needed to be a legend or something in game that could counter res and heals and stop them in their tracks. It was the same thing over and over again. Get knocked get res get knocked get res. Lose health heal up lose health heal up some more.While in some eyes this is not a logical thing i feel it is. There just was nothing in game to counter those 2. People complained about lifeline shield res. Would they complain about it with a legend who could fully counter it? Doubtful they would play them to destroy the annoying lifeline.

@E9ine_AC I have yet to hear a good warning seer is scanning me. 🤷♂️

@WreckingVi So the game is designed around res and heals? I'll be a firm believer that it was a much needed change of pace. Most players know how to dodge his tactical as it gives you quite some time to move left to right upon seeing it. Every legend that comes out everyone has a problem with them. Instead of learning to counter him which is quite easily done as i do it daily they rather just hate on his abilities.His tactical gives you a good 1-2 seconds to simply move left or right unless your dead in the middle. His tactical can not pick up any legend that is crawling/crouch walking.His ult like horizons can easily just be destroyed shooting it. There are many methods to counter this legend. It will be what sets apart the good from the bad in terms of controlling the situation.

@LaughingSharkoHuge difference in all your comparisons: None of those work through mountains and building walls except bloodhound. All require line of sight. And bloodhounds tactical does a lot less.

@LaughingSharko How it doesn't do anything? Canceling a 10 sec heal through walls is just giving you extra 10 sec to push the guy who just had his heals canceled and you can see him and his hp for 8 sec straight. 8 sec? Not to mention that you don't need to peek out of cover to use it, every other ability that you are trying to compare it with doesn't go through walls.Talking about nades, so genius to bring nades in a convo about legend abilities. Absolutely a good comparison for legend balance...First thing I would change about his tactical is make the reveal much shorter, make it pulse based instead of persistence scan. Something needs to be done about canceling a 9.9 sec Phoenix too.His passive is just not it, good luck recovering banners in ranked. I certainly don't like Wallhack Meta, the fact that seer even launched with that kit is absurd to me

Seer's kit shouldn't have happened, Devs need to own up to it n rework him

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E9ine_AC
Hero+
4 years ago
@WreckingVi His heartbeat scans do give off indications to enemy teams. His scanner gets louder and louder the longer he scans them which can inform a team hey a seer is tracking me i hear the heartbeat censor.

Cancelling heals and res 100% needed to be a thing. There is no counter to either. There needed to be a counter for both. Gibby just fast res inside a bubble how do you counter that with people covering him? You got someone 1 shot and dont know where he ran and can hear him popping a bat. There was no way to counter that. I am a firm believer there needed to be a legend or something in game that could counter res and heals and stop them in their tracks. It was the same thing over and over again. Get knocked get res get knocked get res. Lose health heal up lose health heal up some more.

While in some eyes this is not a logical thing i feel it is. There just was nothing in game to counter those 2. People complained about lifeline shield res. Would they complain about it with a legend who could fully counter it? Doubtful they would play them to destroy the annoying lifeline.
WreckingVi
4 years ago
@E9ine_AC You just proved me right, Seer just destroyed Apex Legends Originality, and TTK. No one wanted Warzone TTK or a MOBA like game. Now we are getting there. Healing, Running to cover or reviving were all part of the gameplay, movement of Apex Legends n getting to cover now doesn't matter anymore.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
4 years ago
@WreckingVi So the game is designed around res and heals? I'll be a firm believer that it was a much needed change of pace. Most players know how to dodge his tactical as it gives you quite some time to move left to right upon seeing it. Every legend that comes out everyone has a problem with them. Instead of learning to counter him which is quite easily done as i do it daily they rather just hate on his abilities.

His tactical gives you a good 1-2 seconds to simply move left or right unless your dead in the middle. His tactical can not pick up any legend that is crawling/crouch walking.

His ult like horizons can easily just be destroyed shooting it. There are many methods to counter this legend. It will be what sets apart the good from the bad in terms of controlling the situation.
hayhor
Hero
4 years ago
@E9ine_AC I have yet to hear a good warning seer is scanning me. 🤷‍♂️
WreckingVi
4 years ago
@E9ine_AC Sorry but not feeling these. Also His tactical marks you no matter what, dodging it means canceling heals n staying in it means heals being canceled. If they wanna change the pace, they can do it. But good luck keeping players playing this trash wallhack meta.
WreckingVi
4 years ago
@hayhor True that. Also we def needed this crap in the game

https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/pb9yed/aint_no_way_boi_this_is_getting_annoying_now/
LaughingSharko
4 years ago
@WreckingVi What's your point? That a player used their tactical ability skillfully?

This is no different from Valk sending missiles your way, Fuse tossing his Q, bloodhound searching and destroying you, revenant Qing you, or literally any player tossing an arc star or a grenade.
LaughingSharko
4 years ago
@WreckingVi "...dodging it means canceling heals n staying in it means heals being canceled." You can say this about virtually all of the Q abilities of offensive legends. And... again, arc stars.
LaughingSharko
4 years ago
@hayhor This could be a good addition as a counter balance. They could make each "ping" from seer get louder the closer he is. From a long distance, it wouldn't be much, but close by it would be a distinctive ping. The sound should represent seer's location as well (only via sound, not visually). That way, Seer would have to risk something by using the passive to hunt down enemy locations.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
4 years ago
@hayhor It gets louder the longer he is in it. So if they quick scan it wont be heard but if he hold scans and keeps doing it then it can be heard better.