The first ring should have a long time so people can fight and loot. But every ring after that needs to be much shorter like 1-1.5 minutes tops
There is currently too much downtime in the middle rings because of how long the countdown takes (i think its 3 minutes) and people just camp and wait to the next ring which is very boring
So the game must force people to move so we can get to the action quicker.
It's not even that. People just don't wait at all and drop at start anywhere. If the hotzone is at the end of planepath, even if it has a dropship on it, there's quite high chance you can still get it uncontested. There are usually no more than 10 people in the plane halfway. If 50 people kill themselves in 1/10th of the map, of course the midgame will feel slow. That will change as people learn to play, stop dropping hot for nothing and start spreading out a bit more. The circle timers are definitely not too slow. 20 minute average game time is perfect, as determined in multiple other games.
@ShadoWawker wrote:The first ring should have a long time so people can fight and loot. But every ring after that needs to be much shorter like 1-1.5 minutes tops
There is currently too much downtime in the middle rings because of how long the countdown takes (i think its 3 minutes) and people just camp and wait to the next ring which is very boring
So the game must force people to move so we can get to the action quicker.
Are attention spans so short nowadays that 3 minutes is to long?
It's fine the way it is imo.
The amount of people who drop in and want a gunfight within 30 seconds is crazy. That's why half the squads die so quickly. The ring time is fine. Some of the player base isn't.
And please don't bring the "camping" argument here. That belongs in Cod and Battlefield forums. BR is do what you need to to survive.
Uh what's wrong with camping in Cod? I've won Blackout games where I literally sat in water for 20 minutes, just gathering intel and moving around to not be seen. Some of the most exciting wins ever.
@Biochemikas wrote:Uh what's wrong with camping in Cod? I've won Blackout games where I literally sat in water for 20 minutes, just gathering intel and moving around to not be seen. Some of the most exciting wins ever.
I meant, that kind of "camping" comment is what you normally find in the cod forums by pro run and gunners lol (well, it was years ago... Not been back since BO3).
It wasn't a knock at you or camping.
I've camped the centre ring and made sure me and my only team mate had positional advantage on high ground. No need to move. If we did, it would be a stupid play to make.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a rather agressive player in general. I just like utilizing the most effective tactic for the moment. If that is waiting for my prey to come to me and slaughtering them like sheep, so be it. Camping, stalking, gathering intel, running away are a very big part of tactical arsenal of any shooter game, especially surivival type ones. I don't get people who play only half of the game and think they're any good. Pushing hard the last squad is most often the smart play. Pushing in between 2 other teams towards the outside of the ring is on the other hand a very stupid play.
3 minutes is not too long just because of the number 3, its too long within the context of the game and how it plays out.
It there was more shooting and action going on i wouldnt complain but 3 minutes of running around and finding no one just to have the ring close and repeat that process again? Quite boring
Your point about the playerbase may be true but guess what? Playerbase is not going to change people will always want to land in the hot zones and areas close to the beginning, so therefore the game must change to accomodate the playerbase.
Because people die so early theres fewer teams left on the map to find and fight which is why my solution works. The only other solution is to keep more teams alive at the beginning of the game i suppose you could try to do that as someone mentioned by removing the blue loot zone but speeding up the ring timers would be more effective and reliable leaving less to chance
"Busy chasing and killing squads non stop" what game are you playing? Im talking about apex legends here and that is definitely not the typical game i have and i want to note that i always run over to fight when i hear shooting, unless i have very low health/shields
So its not like im hiding in a corner the whole match and then complain theres no action im actively looking for fights all the time i want to win while getting as many kills as possible but very often there simply is no one around to fight and i dont hear any shooting= running around doing nothing and boredom
I am keeping the average player in mind i believe the average player does not like a ton of down time and would rather be shooting other people because that is simply more fun. No one to shoot? Therefore the game must be changed to fix the problem
I'm with OP on this one, now that I more or less have the game figured out, I feel that even a decrease of 15-20 seconds on each ring would help speed it up a bit. Maybe that can be dependent on the number of people/squads left.
@ShadoWawker wrote:"Busy chasing and killing squads non stop" what game are you playing? Im talking about apex legends here and that is definitely not the typical game i have and i want to note that i always run over to fight when i hear shooting, unless i have very low health/shields
So its not like im hiding in a corner the whole match and then complain theres no action im actively looking for fights all the time i want to win while getting as many kills as possible but very often there simply is no one around to fight and i dont hear any shooting= running around doing nothing and boredom
I am keeping the average player in mind i believe the average player does not like a ton of down time and would rather be shooting other people because that is simply more fun. No one to shoot? Therefore the game must be changed to fix the problem
Again this is just your opinion on what average play may or may not like. Many like to snipe, which is extremely difficult to do when the ring moves too fast. The sniper riffles are not even being picked up that often, people tend to main an auto rifle and a shotgun or wingman. The sniper gameplay is currently is not very rewarding as it is and you want to get rid of it completely. . .
