So the highly anticipated and 2 times sold out Google Stadia game streaming service has recently launched, Shadow PC already preceded this, and is honestly better, and with all the interest consumers have in this new way of playing i'm wondering if Apex will join the ranks of playable titles.With a start up cost of around 120 USD, with 3 months subscription and a stadia controller and a monthly subscription fee of only 10 USD, this is a very attractive price to have the need for purchasing, repairing and upgrading computer hardware taken out of your hands.For many, this means that beast gaming PC's become much more reasonably priced, including myself. There's some people on PC i'd like to play Apex with, and wondered if Apex will ever come to google stadia, or if I must get Shadow PC instead.Also for those reading, playing games run from servers that do not need downloading or installing also gets rid of those aimbotting pests 🙌Will EA consider hitting up your boy google?

I don't believe Stadia has yet set a precedent for F2P games so I don't expect it to be likely. I don't think Respawn are done with expanding the games availability though. Two things that I expect EA to be more likely to consider however:1. EA might join the game streaming arena with their own service some time between now and the next few years. Or...2. They might consider making some form of port for mobile devices so that they can reach a separate market.Apex is only going to become more accessible to lower end hardware as standards rise, and current gen consoles aren't going to be current gen for much longer (assuming these streaming services don't cancel the next generation). Since the Xbox One has allowed certain games to use mouse+keyboard, this could have broader implications for the next Xbox too.Acquiring the hardware to stream a game that thousands of people play for free would no doubt be a costly endeavour.Also I have my doubts about streaming a multiplayer shooter. I wouldn't mind it for games played at a more casual pace but I fear the input latency could make mouse aim feel disorienting.LASTLY I don't think such a streaming service would do much to curb cheating. That is unless they decide to separate stream users from game client users entirely. I don't think that would be a very popular way to do it.

@Wingmannedbro I wonder how input lag feels in cloud gaming. Numbers here are not great: https://www.pcgamer.com/heres-how-stadias-input-lag-compares-to-native-pc-gaming/. But, if you live close enough to the servers and there are only few network hops to mess up your connection, could be ok.As for the cheating, yes, there will be less, but I still envision some hackers trying shape recognition software for aimbots, especially when 4k / 8k will become normal.

Me, a console player, witnessing a PC player praising and getting hyped for Stadia:From the previews I've seen, it's had some serious input lag (for some) for a not-so-cheap gaming option, so atm no thank you.

@bosourd Lag and bandwidth are not the same thing. You can easily have 500mbps, if the closest server is at 150ms, game experience will be pretty bad.Apex will not need any more bandwidth than other games. Players receive a video stream and send controller inputs which take just a few bits.

@DoYaSeeMe So it's bad for Stadia? I remember Shadow offering negligent lag, according to Linus Tech Tips.Problem is that shadow requires a laptop or computer to run with a recommended 5GHz wifi port and cannot be streamed directly to my smart TV yet. Which means i'd still have to drop about 600 to 700 euro on a basic PC anyway.

Will Apex have a future on Google Stadia?

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DoYaSeeMe
6 years ago
@Wingmannedbro I wonder how input lag feels in cloud gaming. Numbers here are not great: https://www.pcgamer.com/heres-how-stadias-input-lag-compares-to-native-pc-gaming/. But, if you live close enough to the servers and there are only few network hops to mess up your connection, could be ok.

As for the cheating, yes, there will be less, but I still envision some hackers trying shape recognition software for aimbots, especially when 4k / 8k will become normal.
Wingmannedbro
6 years ago
@DoYaSeeMe
So it's bad for Stadia? I remember Shadow offering negligent lag, according to Linus Tech Tips.
Problem is that shadow requires a laptop or computer to run with a recommended 5GHz wifi port and cannot be streamed directly to my smart TV yet. Which means i'd still have to drop about 600 to 700 euro on a basic PC anyway.
cooperal1012
6 years ago
I don't believe Stadia has yet set a precedent for F2P games so I don't expect it to be likely. I don't think Respawn are done with expanding the games availability though. Two things that I expect EA to be more likely to consider however:
1. EA might join the game streaming arena with their own service some time between now and the next few years. Or...
2. They might consider making some form of port for mobile devices so that they can reach a separate market.
Apex is only going to become more accessible to lower end hardware as standards rise, and current gen consoles aren't going to be current gen for much longer (assuming these streaming services don't cancel the next generation). Since the Xbox One has allowed certain games to use mouse+keyboard, this could have broader implications for the next Xbox too.
Acquiring the hardware to stream a game that thousands of people play for free would no doubt be a costly endeavour.
Also I have my doubts about streaming a multiplayer shooter. I wouldn't mind it for games played at a more casual pace but I fear the input latency could make mouse aim feel disorienting.
LASTLY I don't think such a streaming service would do much to curb cheating. That is unless they decide to separate stream users from game client users entirely. I don't think that would be a very popular way to do it.
bosourd
6 years ago
@Wingmannedbro Even single player game needs 20mbps speed to play without lag on Stadia, I wonder what kind of internet speed from NASA we need to play Apex with their servers *
DoYaSeeMe
6 years ago
@bosourd Lag and bandwidth are not the same thing. You can easily have 500mbps, if the closest server is at 150ms, game experience will be pretty bad.

Apex will not need any more bandwidth than other games. Players receive a video stream and send controller inputs which take just a few bits.
AzGoshawk
6 years ago
First question is:
Will Google Stadia have future?
Latest news is that subscriptions is low and disconnects due to ChromeCast heats.
Wingmannedbro
6 years ago
@AzGoshawk
Omg no way, you'd think they would have thought about cooling.
Pretty big deal.
AzGoshawk
6 years ago
@Wingmannedbro

The ChromeCast Ultra disconnects the games when get heat. If they thought about it? Probably in future ChromeCast dongles.
CAGOA33
6 years ago
I am confused, in this thread you can't afford a pc the other thread your halfway towards buying one, also you only play fortnite now but you play Apex, think you need to stop drinking and sh*t posting.
Wingmannedbro
6 years ago
@CAGOA33 wrote:
I am confused, in this thread you can't afford a pc the other thread your halfway towards buying one, also you only play fortnite now but you play Apex, think you need to stop drinking and sh*t posting.
If you had actually read all of my recent comments, you'd have read that I have only actually bought a coolermaster case and 1TB SSD with black friday sales. And I stared numerous times in my recent posts that I haven't tied the knot on what CPU GPU and MB combo to purchase.
And since you're a dimwit who can't pass on an opportunity to call somebody who literally never drinks, not even a little, a sh*tposting alcoholic, you're probably too stupid to understand that I may not have 1300 to 1400 just lying around right this very moment, but can accumulate after the holiday season by cutting some other expenses.
I won't actually finish a build untill around May next year.
And because I play Fortnite to enjoy some solo's I would somehow not have any reason to fill out of my BP? or play ranked when my friends are asking to join?
Apparently you're too much of a tard to understand people can play 2 concurrent games, and save money.