You can roll out the matchmaking changes any time now, Respawn

@HappyHourSumwur

Here is biggest difference between premade and random trios. Premades they know to stick together after initial looting. Chances are when you bump into another enemy it can become 3 against 1 most likely as randoms love to run off solo. That's how they always win. When one person in a premade goes down, the rest actually care. Randoms go into rainbow siege mode and crouch walk around corners or carry on looting.

Premades firstly stick together after initial drop loot spread. Randoms don't know how to stop, listen in new areas before looting.

If you really want good randoms:
- Before dropship communicate over mic. If they don't respond. Quit
- If they're playing loud music or not taking parental responsibility over their baby crying in living room. Quit.
- Trying to rap/sing/say nonsense. Quit.

Just quit the lobby before drop.

Yea you lose a lot of time. But quality is better than quantity of repeated death drops. Soon as you hear 2 team mates willing to communicate....it makes a huge difference.

If they refuse to listen and still pretend to be 1v3 Pro YouTube Wannabe. They're your bait and you're not their personal revive assistant. Up to you to decide whether to safe revive or grab banner. At that point most of them quit anyway.

Play as a team. But if they don't, then you don't have to either.

@PeterN_UK Totally agree and I do Quit to Lobby in pubs for all those reasons. Solo queue is actually better than playing Trios with my brother for those reasons as well as matchmaking reasons.

As a solo, the lobby is typically filled with solo squads closer to my ability. As a pre-made duo playing trios, we almost never get a higher skilled 3rd able to carry us and it feels like we die in humiliatingly quick fashion to 3 stacks 90% of the time. Even when we are able to win a fight or 2, neither of us feels that great about it either.

My brother and I also seem to be worse together, not better. We never approach situations the same way and one of us is always getting caught unaware, separated, or over extended. That's on us but is only made worse by the level of competition we get matched against.

Playing trios as a premade duo is just an impossible ask, I guess.

@HappyHourSumwur The new MM is supposed to address the skill group you are in. But yeah I find similar to you. People that only solo think their lobbies are rough but premading takes it to another level.

@HappyHourSumwur

Matchmaking is currently imperfect but it absolutely does:

1) Protect new players by putting them in specialized lobbies

2) Protect solo players (overall)

The players who get the “short end of the stick” are:

1) Premades with a large skill disparity amongst teammates

2) Premades in general (save the top .05% of players; the “whales”)

@HappyHourSumwur The SBMM is so bad in this game I honestly thought it couldn’t get worse…..I was very very wrong! If I play with my two brothers (we’re all old and average at the game) we get rolled every match by pre-made squads of masters and diamonds constantly, even preds show up to reem us occasionally. We even flicked over to ranked because we haven’t played in ages, thinking we’d have some enjoyable matches down in bottom bronze….ha! It’s worse, how is that even possible in a mode designed to show true skill, the match ups weren’t even close, and don’t get me started on smurfs because that situation is out of control and a stain on Respawns ability/wish to do anything about it. Seeing a champ squad of lvl 20’s who you meet in match only to find them move and shoot like fps gods is common place now apparently!

@Axs5626Sxa5001 Haha you clearly havent been playing in europe lately.
In ranked i had ten games on the trot against pred champ squads, diamond and above. oh, i was silver at the time.
They messed around with the sbmm and broke about as badly as thery could.
I can tell you it ABSOLUTELY protected no one but top tier kill farmers so im not sure how much respawn paid you to tout that untrue statement. (please have a read of some of the threads relating to this).

@Axs5626Sxa5001 Homie, you're high. Please tell me what you're on, i want some.

@Axs5626Sxa5001 Yep it was doing this but they've been experimenting and the EU ranked last weekend was a complete disaster.

@IdleHandsNo1 Premades with large skill gaps get the short end of it, by far. They take the skill rating of the highest rated player to find a lobby for the party. I'm OK with that if the skill gap is somewhat small, but when you have a skilled player with a new player, the whole thing goes to hell. Premade duos get the worst of it over premade trios, too. You get a random plus they take your higher skill rating of the 2. Just bad all around.