Open vs locked weapons per class
Traditionally Battlefield has always been about classes, and with that came class locked weapons. This how it was and how it should be! One of the big mistakes they made with BF2042 was to first int...
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Assault, i like the primary weapons, the 2nd primary weapon option and grenade launcher thats it.
So then you like just about everything that Assault offers. I don't get what the point of this comment is?
Support, I feel this should be Medic focused. It also needs something extra instead of only providing.
The issue is not that it needs to be medic focused it already is. They have the fastest revive speed through defibs or through the new drag mechanic. It doesn't need anything "extra" they are support. Their role is to PROVIDE SUPPORT.
Engineer, I do like the rpg a lot and play alongside a tank. That's it.
So you like the engineer then just not the weapon. The problem is you have to trade power for utility when it comes to good game balance.
In previous titels i felt more connected to the classes.
This is because in all previous titles EXCEPT 2042 the classes had locked weapons. You felt more connected because of the limitations and strengths of each class. They didn't all feel like one generic military guy shooting the same gun because that's the meta!
The only thing you do is bashing opinions to defend a closed system thats not a discussion at all.
You clearly are trapped in you're own way of thinking. "I don't get the point, You're argument is invalid etc etc.
You're so incredibly tiring to talk to. Not because you're right, but because you're so full of yourself and your answers.
So the Assault class has only to offer what i wrote? Wrong, it has more so you're answer is already invalid.
You think support doesnt need something extra, i do. So you're invalid again because it's my opinion.
And lastly now you also now why i feel connected to a class or not? You just know for some reason INVALID AGAIN.
TheCovenant98 wrote:
The only thing you do is bashing opinions to defend a closed system thats not a discussion at all.I'm sorry you feel that way, my stance on this issue is counter to yours. I haven't "bashed" your opinion at all though. I've stated several reasons why I disagree with your opinion and why your opinion isn't a reason for a sweeping change to a system with a proven track record. Discussions contain arguments, it doesn't mean I dislike you, or I am trying to have a fight which is different from an argument. Am I supposed to just agree with your opinion and we can all just get along? Wouldn't be much to talk about then would there?
TheCovenant98 wrote:
You clearly are trapped in you're own way of thinking. "I don't get the point, You're argument is invalid etc etc.I'm not trapped in my own thinking, I've actually thought about this subject far more than I'd like to admit. I've taken into account both sides and weighed them against each other. However, in a discussion it is on you to provide strong arguments to support your stance.
TheCovenant98 wrote:
You're so incredibly tiring to talk to. Not because you're right, but because you're so full of yourself and your answers.This is called attrition. I'm not full of myself or my answers. How could you discern that from text on a screen? There is no smug tone to be found. I am however confident in my responses and answers. I take the time to think about them before I respond so that I am limiting the emotional response I give and only responding with logic.
TheCovenant98 wrote:
So the Assault class has only to offer what i wrote? Wrong, it has more so you're answer is already invalid.You can't just say I'm wrong without saying WHY I'm wrong or at the very least explaining what else Assault offers. All you've done is state that I'm wrong and invalid and provided ZERO reason even when asked. You are doing the very thing you accuse me of.
TheCovenant98 wrote:
You think support doesnt need something extra, i do. So you're invalid again because it's my opinion.Again you provide no reason here. Opinions do not equate to reason. While everyone is entitled to their opinions, those opinions are not automatically valid or rational simply because they are held. Reason requires a foundation of evidence, logical consistency, and a willingness to consider alternative perspectives. Your opinion is just a feeling that they need something extra until you state WHAT that extra thing they need is. Support is already the most well rounded class in the game so I see no need for anything more. Not to mention they will be getting other options for their utility items in the full release such as trophy systems.
TheCovenant98 wrote:
And lastly now you also now why i feel connected to a class or not? You just know for some reason INVALID AGAIN.No, I don't precisely know why you feel connected to a class or not, but given what you said one can fairly assume that you are disconnected because of a lack of class identity and because the main thing that has changed in terms of class identity is open weapons then it is fair to assume that this is the cause, unless you state otherwise.
I don't care HOW you feel about the issue, I care about WHY you feel the way you do about the issue. Until you provide reason for your opinion then the conversation will remain static and I will appear as though I am being obstinate. Again, it's not on me to prove myself wrong.It's also safe to assume that since you are on a discussion board you want to discuss this topic and I'm sorry, but it's both arrogant and ignorant if you can't be bothered to explain yourself. Are we all not good enough for you to explain why you hold the opinions you do? Talk about calling the kettle black, yikes.
Dude seriously?
You can't see that the Assaults class has more to offer then the 3 things i said in my comment?
So the Assault class has no signature gadget? no field spec? no signature trait?
Im out, im sorry...
Dude seriously?
You can't see that the Assaults class has more to offer then the 3 things i said in my comment?
So the Assault class has no signature gadget? no field spec? no signature trait?Oh I absolutely can see that, and I use that kit to it's full potential.
Your previous comment stated only what you liked about it. So tell me, is it me who doesn't understand the value of the kit they have or you? Since there are only 3 things you like about that class.
You can't even offer us a SINGLE reason why open weapons are better.Either you do actually think your opinion is so infallible that you cannot even bother to explain it or you don't understand how. It's either arrogance or ignorance at this point until you explain your stance.
Im out, im sorry...
So when presented with a well constructed opinion counter to your own, instead of defending your stance you decide to run away? Guess you didn't want to discuss the topic after all.
