NFS Heat Level 3+

Agreed... 

I don't think the aim of the game is to bug hop you're way through 

its no fun with Heat 3+

Cops have around 90.000 HP they always catch up even If I use NITRO they´re always faster. 

just lost 50k because it is impossible to loose 4 cops.

Night Race is no fun right now. Cops way to fast.

Fun fakt my own car at Home is faster then the Z4 Level 220. Got a BMW 1 Series with 410 HP at home. I bet with my own car I can escape 4 cops easy lol 

To be honest in the late game when you have damage reduction and map knowledge cops are actually way to easy.

If any nerfs come I hope the nerf hi elevated camping instant evade spots too

If they do, do balancing hard needs to be left hard. me personally even without exploits can escape a 5 start easy without ramps or jumps to hide. Hiding with engine off is OP if used right

•Fix the time to bust and low speed to bust (should be like 20MPH not 50 to 60)

•Fix the damage numbers for car combat cos losing 20 to 30% health for ramming the side of a dodge is stupid

•Fix the rubberbanding on all cops apart from the super pursuit units "corvettes" but make the corvettes a weaker in the health and damage they do to you as a result. Corvettes arm should be to slow you down not tanky ram ram car combat, thats the dodges job.

(i really wanna see hi speeds being the corvettes job trying to pit you and break check rather than shunting you like a dodge, but soon as you slow thats when the dodges put in work with the ramming and the slamming. You know? Give each unit a role, a job in the chase.

Right now every Cop type plays and feels the same with small health and hit damage difference. Would love to see more strategy from the cops)

•Remove the jumping exploits so you can just jump up hi and win

•Fix helicopters as wheh hiding up hi even they lose you (let choppers bust us for trying to exploit save zones no ?)

•Also let the chopper spawn at heat 4 too just half the length of heat 5 choppers

If these things were added. You would spend less time getting rammed till at slow speeds and cops over all would be less annoying as each cop type would have a different strategy meaning the player can actually adapt and counter play.

Right now the strategy is rubber band into you ramming you into 200MPH because they are actually ONLY trying to get in front of you to use the 1 Diamond box formation 99% of the time at any speed.

You will notice if 1 cop is in front of you getting shunted never happens much as no cop is trying to rubberband in front. The whole chase system is built around that 1 diamond box formation and they will do ANYTHING to get it set up. It's why rubber banding feels so bad and cops hyper ram ram mode when nothing is ahead of you

•Give different cop car types different pursuit roles/jobs

•Different strategies for different speeds

•More formations instead of the 1 Diamond 4 car box

•Over all more AI strategies to slow you like only corvettes and choppers having the kill switch so they can slow you for the brute force slower units.

Just more things to keep the cops out of that 1 strategy. Rubberband to box.

This would need a Rework of course but pull this stuff off and chases would not need any numbers changes

Cops 2.0

More work but the end result would be more than worth it

it should not be the way it is right now where you have to exploit bugs and rams to even have a chance to avoid em seriously. they are literly Alien corps with Alien mobile cars with stupid warp drives. i have had multiply issues with them being out of the red circle on the minimap around me and within 1 sek they were right next to me. thats warpdrive. i was going 200kmt+ that aint balanced. you can literly not get away from em at heat lvl 3 and above it is that bad untill you exploit bugs and ramps. you cant outrun them in a car that is maxed for speed nor does it help going offroad they are driveing like it was on a regular road. so no point useing an offroad setup car either. this is exatly as bad as NFS Paycrap. they need some work. as of right now i try to avoid heat lvl 3 and above at all times cause i do not find it fun useing exploit or ramps to avoid em. just my 2 cents..

Corvettes should keep up with your 200km thats the point in them. They even say it over the radio "can't keep up send somefaster units" then the corvettes get called in, the are the super pursuit unit for super cars/end game levels or speed, not just a pretty cat to look at. Problem is everything has rubber banding for the diamond formation. When they are not trying to do it you leave everything else in the dust but the corvettes. Thats how it sould be being the super car unit. Problem is by design, setting up that diamond formation makes any cop break the sound barrier when they decide to set it up. Untill that AI command,out running dodges and crown vics is achievable. That formation needs looking at because I honestly believe It's what causes this because when running about the city escaping is so much easier because they don't have chance to attempt the box thus, not having the crazy jet fuel speed boost

Soon as the dodges start boxing you take massive damage as they are the brute units. Problem is again. That formation. It ignores the speed limits of the cars.

They start spamming it in heat levels 3+  they just wanna get into one of the 4 boxing positions (your front your right or your left even if they are alone)

They even use it in heat 1 and 2 but the escape circle is small so they don't have the time to rubberband for the formation set up before you enter cool down

We need to point ghost and EA  the right direction.

And after just testing and messing with the cops for 20 hours this my findings

The the box formation ignores the cops speed limits. And because they always try use it 99% of the chase we get this mess

Trust me this is the issue 

If they fix that box tactic the cops instantly are fixed.

Its a classic example of the AI programming taking "go to and do this" taking priority over other lines of code. There obviously is not something to check the cars speed vs "go there and box player" the AI just wants to get up to you because it's told to do that 🤣 It's basically ignoring it's rules. (it's speed limit) to complete the box command.

In games design in college I made a BUNCH of common mistakes like this. And it leads to this

All it takes is a slight grammar error in your code and your AI can either break like alien colonial marines. Or just do whats obviously happening here

But honestly me personally. I've been out running heat 5 no problem going 200mph+ on hard. I don't think most people have their cars up to spec yet. Heat 3 to 5 is where chases actually start.

I agree, the police after level 2 are waaaay to hard to risk, especially if you are just starting off, how are we supposed to rank up if we can only do 2-3 races a night max? Sure once you get up in the levels and got the better cars its no problem, but as someone who is still in the lower levels, night time is just no that enjoyable. 

I leave night as soon as I hit heat lvl 2 because otherwise it is no fun to just lose credits and heat....I know the purpose of the police, but seriously, they are just too overpowered as pointed out previously....

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@Yetskii wrote:

I leave night as soon as I hit heat lvl 2 because otherwise it is no fun to just lose credits and heat....I know the purpose of the police, but seriously, they are just too overpowered as pointed out previously....

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I am personally hoping that they expand the difficulty settings to have custom difficulties so we can choose how hard or how easy the police are or how easy or hard the racers are and so on......set them to easy, then they are easy, set then to hard, then they will be hard, i play for the story, nothing else, once i finish the story, i move on  to another game, i don't play online with other players, i play exclusively solo.