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@7AnimalMother wrote:Personally I like the swing ARC changes. I don’t play sim due to the putting, so when I play online Tour mode, this will bring more challenge to the competition.. Like the new putting changes as well.
As far as the RNG goes, I think you have agreed with me that there is really no RNG on fully specced ,and leveled golfer with skill points applied. Therefore, I think your argument really isn’t about RNG but how progression occurs in the game.
To me they keep missing the biggest needed change for gameplay, and that’s significant reduction of distance/accuracy/spin from rough and sand and -dranatic- reduction from heavy rough.
I do agree that RNG doesn't come into play with a fully spec'd player. But that isn't my point... my problem is that RNG shouldn't be in play if a shot is perfectly executed. This way RNG can still come into play for a poorly executed shot. Once fully spec'd it becomes a lot more difficult to hit a bad shot, taking away a lot of the skill required to play the game.
For me they got this concept backasswards.
As for the second statement I fully agree.
I also think a SIM MODE preset should be just that, a preset that shouldn't have any aids enabled. Currently it includes the swing meter, and green grids which I could do without. I would love to be able to disable the aiming reticule as well.
It seems EA doesn't think golfers are very skilled and require ever possible aid to play.
You don't even need to be elite to score well on this arcade game. It truly is childs play... built by the mindset of children.
@ELF014 wrote:As for what they are doing with the putting grid I like it. Even though it is something I don't use. This does seem like a good solution for rewarding skills points without affecting shot execution. Meaning you should not be punished with RNG, for hitting a good shot just because you didn't have enough skill points.
I don't mind the idea of what they are doing with the grid, but I do think it's silly to implement it now, more than 7 months after the game came out.
I have only had the game since August, and have most skills pretty much beefed up to the point where I am going to have a tiny, micro-focused grid from the get-go of this new patch. Only new players are going to have the large grid boxes. And since most shots accumulate around and on the green, this is going to make the game much harder for new players than it is for anyone who's had the game for a reasonable amount of time. I'd imagine anyone who's had the game since launch will be fully skilled out, too...not to mention there will be those, like you, who don't use grids at all, who will not be impacted by this change.
As usual, the concept makes sense in general, but the execution (and timing) is a little strange.
@sroel908 wrote:
I don't mind the idea of what they are doing with the grid, but I do think it's silly to implement it now, more than 7 months after the game came out.I have only had the game since August, and have most skills pretty much beefed up to the point where I am going to have a tiny, micro-focused grid from the get-go of this new patch. Only new players are going to have the large grid boxes. And since most shots accumulate around and on the green, this is going to make the game much harder for new players than it is for anyone who's had the game for a reasonable amount of time. I'd imagine anyone who's had the game since launch will be fully skilled out, too...not to mention there will be those, like you, who don't use grids at all, who will not be impacted by this change.
As usual, the concept makes sense in general, but the execution (and timing) is a little strange.
Nope I fully agree with you in what you are saying. But it is not just about what I want and I believe does improve on the game though as you say, is coming late to the game. Though I believe many people haven't placed any skill points on the putting skills and have leaned heavily in into driving distance. Mostly because of how hazards don't impact the game.
I always hear about the bad putting reactions on some of the courses people complain about. I personally have never had an issue with it. But I wonder now if the issue is that there isn't enough granularity in the size of the grids to fully represent what happening inside it. Have any of these people thought that within that 2 foot square the ball does actually break both ways?
Anyway... I happy to accept any improvements in this game even if it doesn't benefit me, I just wish they would address some that would. Mainly, fixing the swing mechanics, ball physics and letting me lock down the game parameters of a private room.
Oh and the option to remove the aiming reticule.
IF, and that's a big IF, EA makes another golf game, I'm sure the concept will be different. This one is TW11 on steroids with RNG. Anyway, I still prefer this game than 2K23 where the swing is on steroids, I find it way too fast over there. They should have a much slower swing for us girls at 2K, I would mess up my back after 2 swings in real life. A girl would lose her eye lash extensions with that swing at 2K.
@Katybee_1313 wrote:IF, and that's a big IF, EA makes another golf game, I'm sure the concept will be different. This one is TW11 on steroids with RNG. Anyway, I still prefer this game than 2K23 where the swing is on steroids, I find it way too fast over there. They should have a much slower swing for us girls at 2K, I would mess up my back after 2 swings in real life. A girl would lose her eye lash extensions with that swing at 2K.
I'm absolutely agree with your assessment of the swing speed in the 2K game. If you get a chance to purchase 2K2019 for a cheap price I would suggest you try it. I find the swing mechanics too easy... but the swing speed and putting mechanics excellent. Though the green speeds are rather slow.
If the 2K23 game had EA's or 2K2019 swing speed I'd be a pretty happy guy overall. 2K23 still wouldn't be perfect... but it would get me a lot closer.
@Beerrun4u wrote:@7AnimalMotherWhat do you consider full specced? Does the little box to the lower right on the skill page determine that? If so, no one will ever get "specced up" until they increase skill points of have equipment with full specs, so RNG will always affect everyone for the foreseeable future.
Fully specced to me just means you have a legendary specc applied in each equipment slot.
@7AnimalMother wrote:
Fully specced to me just means you have a legendary specc applied in each equipment slot.I agree, it made a huge difference to me.
I get what you mean, but if you look at my attachment, you'll see that the spec/skill meter doesn't fill up regardless of maxxed skills and available equipment specs which to me means that RNG will be in play no matter how well you've built your character at this point. (the picture is from a low attribute player, but a full 60 lvl doesn't fill any of the bars)
@Beerrun4u wrote:I get what you mean, but if you look at my attachment, you'll see that the spec/skill meter doesn't fill up regardless of maxxed skills and available equipment specs which to me means that RNG will be in play no matter how well you've built your character at this point. (the picture is from a low attribute player, but a full 60 lvl doesn't fill any of the bars)
What you are saying is true, but RNG starts to become almost negligible as you start building up your character.
But you shouldn't have to build up your character to hit reliable shots.
@Katybee_1313 wrote:IF, and that's a big IF, EA makes another golf game, I'm sure the concept will be different. This one is TW11 on steroids with RNG. Anyway, I still prefer this game than 2K23 where the swing is on steroids, I find it way too fast over there. They should have a much slower swing for us girls at 2K, I would mess up my back after 2 swings in real life. A girl would lose her eye lash extensions with that swing at 2K.
I agree that current game’s RNG is on steroids compared to TW11; I would take TW11 anytime over current game. As a 3-Clicker, the current game’s RNG, especially in Cardi Creek, is taking more PEDs than Mark MacGwire, Jose Canseco, and Kamila Valieva combined. When I last played, I was fully speced with 99 OVR, but I still felt the RNG. The RNG feels more different for 3-clickers compared to analog users.When I first played 2K23, the swing was frantic like a Ramones Song and I felt rushed like playing a game of the 007 film “No Time to Die”. After playing 2K23 again 6 months later, I turned off the swing timing and set to 3-click. I never looked back.
