Are the capital ships and flagships to proper scale? When standing inside the Imperial hangar and seeing the size of the TIE fighters, versus the tiny hangar window you have to fly into to respawn your ship... it seems like the scale of the flagships is incorrect on the outside. Probably was a design decision for one reason or another (or it's all in my head); curious if others have felt the same way.
I certainly agree about travelling faster can make things seem smaller
My interpretation of why the scaling is too small is;
- The 3d depth of the outside cockpit view is too flat and produces a very slight cross-eyed effect.. In the past, I've experimented with a pair of cameras to make 3d videos, and from what I see in Squadrons is similar to having the two cameras the wrong distance apart, and each pointing at a point either too close, or too far away (produces a similar cross-eyed feel). In itself, this can make the world "feel" smaller or larger - I've only tried this on the Oculus headsets so far. Maybe this is an issue with the game talking to Oculus headsets and other headsets are seeing it correctly.
- the rate and way the space particles move past the cockpit. Some parallax applied to the near and more distant ones would have helped with the scaling
If you park an X-wing in the trench that runs along side of the star destroyers, then turn so the nose points at top ledge, and engines point at lower edge, the x wing almost touches both ledges at the same time.
Is showing actual incorrect scale of models? From other pics and videos I've seen, the xwing would be about a 1/3rd of this size.
EA Staff (Retired)Hey @DaBosun That is a great point of view! This happens to me a lot when playing Star Citizen. The doors of the hangar appear to be extremely small as I approach the base but once I get close enough, it seems to get bigger and I'm able to fly the ship right through it.
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I just wanted to confirm that the 3D steroscopic issue is only present during the gameplay. When in the hangar it looks correct, and when I am killed, and the last view from the cockpit is frozen and partially transparent showing through the amber / orange background, the 3D image looks correct. It also gives a brief second of correct 3D projection as gameplay (where it continues playing just after the still-frame), once I continue the mission. The feeling of 3D depth is hugely different during these moments. Once in the cockpit of the new ship, the 3D image is incorrect again.
Would this be something worth reporting as a bug to EA? Is it something EA would need to work together with Oculus over?
From my experience with 3D cameras, if others are seeing the above, I doubt a lot of people would pick up on this as an error, but it will certainly contribute to complaints about world scale, ship scale and complaints of eye strain / headaches
According to Wikipedia, the average length of a Star Destroyer is 1750m (they range from 1600-1900m)
The length of a Tie Fighter is 7.2m
That means end to end, you'd get just over 243 Ties from the tip of the Star Destroyer to the Tail.
I've thought since I first got SW:S, that the scale was wrong.
More obvious is the tiny size of the Frigates on the Republic's side. I recall from Empire how big it was, and these are tiny.
So, I did a test run in training to see how long it takes to fly the length of the Star Destroyer. At speed of 100 it should take 16 seconds to go from end to end. It took 14 seconds. Which I suppose is pretty damn close to scale. I didn't do the width,
And as for the Neb B's, I don't think their scale is too far off. Check out this image, showing the Falcon docked on a Neb B.
could the corvette fit inside of the docking bay? nope not in this game.
I can completely understand non VR users being happy with how the current scale looks. Unfortunately it plays a huge part for VR and scale issue show up very noticeably. What should be the immense feeling of scale is part of what makes VR so great.
I could live with the quirky scale variation between many of the ship types if EA can solve the 3D perspective / 3D depth... (and the 10 minute head tracking slow-down stutter with Oculus VR headsets).
Once the 3D rendering is correct, even a 500m long star destroyer will feel huge in VR (as is does during the death cut scenes)....even if we can still only fit one X-wing in it's trench along the sides 😉
Yes, though presumably since they’re so easy to kill, we’ve passed the point of thinking of the cap ships as anything more than big boxes of target to give the game a goal.
More to the point, the entire scale of the battles is too small in terms of engaged forces and actual physical distance. That combines with a deliberate design decision to make the flight models spasmodic instead of rewarding a smooth stick and e-management and to not have a damage model. Between incentivizing spasmodic behavior, tiny battle spaces, tiny forces, no sense of consequence, fragile and weak capital ships basically sitting on top of each other, and t hen small models on top of it all... everything seems “grade school capture the flag” rather than “epic battle” in nature.
