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Re: Hardware or game issue?

@proxos666

I tried that once before and still got the crashes, however this time I noticed that Guru DDU wasn't completely removing all the old AMD driver files. I manually cleaned them out and reinstalled 16.7.3. Played for about an hour and a half with no crashes before I left this morning, and played for about two hours tonight before my server went down, so it looks like that might have been the problem. I'll wait until I play more tomorrow before I mark solved, but things are looking good. Thanks for the input! Kicking myself for not noticing something so simple.

EDIT: Also, would love to know where you got the SWTOR avatar for this forum!

EDIT 2: Okay, got much farther along time-wise than last time, but still experienced a crash followed by a BSOD on relog tonight. Back to square one, I suppose.

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    @Wolfsong85

    If you press the windows key and type "reliability" open the reliability history and look and see what entries are there , is there anything different to 116 referencing the amd file ?

    Also if you want in case there is a conflict with the bitraider services , try another install as non streaming per the directions at this link

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    @proxos666

    Okay, so after work and an internet outage in my area, I can get back to this. I had disabled BitRaider already, so I don't think that would be interfering at all. I checked my reliability reports, and see some that show BCCode 117, even though the actual blue screens always showed BCCode 116 and never 117, as does the BlueScreenViewer program, with the paramters being antikmpag.sys, dxgkrnl.sys, and dxgmms1.sys, which I understand are the AMD drivers and the DirectX drivers respectively (correct me if I'm wrong). After my ISP repaired the internet out here, I uninstalled and did a clean SWTOR install (and disabled BitRaider). I am still receiving the same results. Game has a CTD after around 1.5 hours of play, and a BSOD upon relaunching the game. If I just restart my computer after the CTD, the blue screen doesn't happen.

    As of now, this issue is still exclusive to SWTOR, as no other game I play has this problem even after extended periods of playtime. Temperatures are normal across the board for all my hardware according to my monitor.

    This is the info given after my most recent BSOD:


    Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
    OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
    Locale ID: 1033

    Additional information about the problem:
    BCCode: 116
    BCP1: FFFFFA8006BA7010
    BCP2: FFFFF88004A52D48
    BCP3: 0000000000000000
    BCP4: 0000000000000002
    OS Version: 6_1_7601
    Service Pack: 1_0
    Product: 768_1

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    9 years ago

    @Wolfsong85

    If you are recording 117 as well as 116 , downclock the card and see if it persists

    Swtor cannot be the cause of a bluescreen , but it can be the trigger which is what will be occuring here

    Below is the Microsoft details on 116 and 117 , if it isn't driver related it is usually hardware, whether that is temp, voltage or something else is the hard part to work out i'm afraid.

    BCCode 116

    BCCode 117

    "Game has a CTD after around 1.5 hours of play, and a BSOD upon relaunching the game. If I just restart my computer after the CTD, the blue screen doesn't happen."

    If the driver has fallen over completely, it is isnt surprising to see a BSOD occur when trying to relaunch a game immediately, hence why on reboot it doesnt happen.

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    @proxos666

    The temps almost always remain below 60C for the entire duration of gameplay, even during and after crash, and never really spike much higher than a a few degrees over 60 when they do rise, so I don't think it's that, and the GPU isn't really that old. I suppose the PSU could be the issue, it's the oldest part of the system, but I don't have a sure way to check that right at the moment. I really don't know what driver issue it could be unless there's some bug with the driver that gets triggered by something with SWTOR, as I've triple checked all the drivers I know to check.

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    @Wolfsong85

    Wish i had a simple solution on this for you

    trying a downclock on the card to see if it has an effect is worthwhile 

    Also start turning things off in swtor settings like AA , shadows etc one at a time in case can narrow down the trigger, not a solution but even finding a way to stop it will be a good step forward at present.

    I gather there are no things like overlays like (raptr ?) being injected 

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    @proxos666

    I'll give the downclock option a try today and start going through the game settings. I got rid of Raptr not long after I got the card because I found it more annoying than useful. There's no other overlays on the game right now.

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    @proxos666

    So, after dialing back the settings for shadows in game, I've had multiple 2-3 hour sessions without any crashes or blue screens. I'm kicking myself for not trying something this simple already! Since I haven't been having any issues, I'm gonna mark this solved for now. Thanks for the input and assistance you provided!

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