A toon to bring balance to the force.

"Vertigo;c-1100478" wrote:

"Olddumper;c-1100450" wrote:

"slickdealer;c-1100370" wrote:
We already have him. Boba Fett

Boba has no bonuses against tenacity up except that it will count as a smidge more damage on execute. We need a toon that hammers tenacity up.

Imperial Shock Trooper:

Basic: Deal physical damage to target and apply daze. If this effect is resisted deal damage an additional two more times.

Special: Deal special damage to all enemies with a 40% each to apply Speed Down, Critical Chance Down, and Buff Immunity to all targets. Imperial Shock trooper then gains 10% TM for each debuff resisted.

Unique: Imperial Trooper Allies dispel all negative status effects on themselves whenever they attempt to apply a debuff and it is resisted. Imperial Shock trooper gains 5% offense for each buffed enemy and gains 2% offense (Stacking) whenever he lands a debuff and 6% (stacking) whenever one of his debuffs is resisted.


Tenacity Up? You mean imperial trooper cleanse? That's what I thought.

Amen brother

"Loose_Lee;c-1100609" wrote:

"Vertigo;c-1100478" wrote:

"Olddumper;c-1100450" wrote:

"slickdealer;c-1100370" wrote:
We already have him. Boba Fett

Boba has no bonuses against tenacity up except that it will count as a smidge more damage on execute. We need a toon that hammers tenacity up.

Imperial Shock Trooper:

Basic: Deal physical damage to target and apply daze. If this effect is resisted deal damage an additional two more times.

Special: Deal special damage to all enemies with a 40% each to apply Speed Down, Critical Chance Down, and Buff Immunity to all targets. Imperial Shock trooper then gains 10% TM for each debuff resisted.

Unique: Imperial Trooper Allies dispel all negative status effects on themselves whenever they attempt to apply a debuff and it is resisted. Imperial Shock trooper gains 5% offense for each buffed enemy and gains 2% offense (Stacking) whenever he lands a debuff and 6% (stacking) whenever one of his debuffs is resisted.


Tenacity Up? You mean imperial trooper cleanse? That's what I thought.

Amen brother

Glad people are liking this haha, too bad the Empire didn't get this in their faction pass. Would've made them a real threat even on defense. But it's so true that Tenacity Up has literally no way to be punished.

Characters with high damage are punished by auto-taunting tanks combined with healers unless their damage is an immediate kill. High speed characters are punished by Rex lead and counter attacks. Counter attackers with low speed are punished with stuns and daze. Debuff reliant characters are punished directly by tenacity up, but nothing can punish tenacity up and it's running rampant in arena right now.

"Olddumper;d-113497" wrote:
We need a DPS toon that does triple damage against toons with tenacity up. Best candidate here would probably be a bounty, jango, or Aurra.

please stop smoking whatever you're smoking.

"Vertigo;c-1100614" wrote:

"Loose_Lee;c-1100609" wrote:

"Vertigo;c-1100478" wrote:

"Olddumper;c-1100450" wrote:

"slickdealer;c-1100370" wrote:
We already have him. Boba Fett

Boba has no bonuses against tenacity up except that it will count as a smidge more damage on execute. We need a toon that hammers tenacity up.

Imperial Shock Trooper:

Basic: Deal physical damage to target and apply daze. If this effect is resisted deal damage an additional two more times.

Special: Deal special damage to all enemies with a 40% each to apply Speed Down, Critical Chance Down, and Buff Immunity to all targets. Imperial Shock trooper then gains 10% TM for each debuff resisted.

Unique: Imperial Trooper Allies dispel all negative status effects on themselves whenever they attempt to apply a debuff and it is resisted. Imperial Shock trooper gains 5% offense for each buffed enemy and gains 2% offense (Stacking) whenever he lands a debuff and 6% (stacking) whenever one of his debuffs is resisted.


Tenacity Up? You mean imperial trooper cleanse? That's what I thought.

Amen brother

Glad people are liking this haha, too bad the Empire didn't get this in their faction pass. Would've made them a real threat even on defense. But it's so true that Tenacity Up has literally no way to be punished.

Characters with high damage are punished by auto-taunting tanks combined with healers unless their damage is an immediate kill. High speed characters are punished by Rex lead and counter attacks. Counter attackers with low speed are punished with stuns and daze. Debuff reliant characters are punished directly by tenacity up, but nothing can punish tenacity up and it's running rampant in arena right now.

there will always be a meta set of skills. Back in the pre-Shoretrooper days, Geo Soldier, then Rey and finally Wiggs ran rampant as they had no counter. Then same the Palp/Zader/anything meta where anything could win in January, and the zaul meta. Owing to the huge debuffs inflicted by Zaul, Tenacity Up and triple cleanse became rampant until this day.

"UltimateSeaDog;c-1100643" wrote:

"Vertigo;c-1100614" wrote:

"Loose_Lee;c-1100609" wrote:

"Vertigo;c-1100478" wrote:

"Olddumper;c-1100450" wrote:

"slickdealer;c-1100370" wrote:
We already have him. Boba Fett

Boba has no bonuses against tenacity up except that it will count as a smidge more damage on execute. We need a toon that hammers tenacity up.

Imperial Shock Trooper:

Basic: Deal physical damage to target and apply daze. If this effect is resisted deal damage an additional two more times.

Special: Deal special damage to all enemies with a 40% each to apply Speed Down, Critical Chance Down, and Buff Immunity to all targets. Imperial Shock trooper then gains 10% TM for each debuff resisted.

Unique: Imperial Trooper Allies dispel all negative status effects on themselves whenever they attempt to apply a debuff and it is resisted. Imperial Shock trooper gains 5% offense for each buffed enemy and gains 2% offense (Stacking) whenever he lands a debuff and 6% (stacking) whenever one of his debuffs is resisted.


Tenacity Up? You mean imperial trooper cleanse? That's what I thought.

Amen brother

Glad people are liking this haha, too bad the Empire didn't get this in their faction pass. Would've made them a real threat even on defense. But it's so true that Tenacity Up has literally no way to be punished.

Characters with high damage are punished by auto-taunting tanks combined with healers unless their damage is an immediate kill. High speed characters are punished by Rex lead and counter attacks. Counter attackers with low speed are punished with stuns and daze. Debuff reliant characters are punished directly by tenacity up, but nothing can punish tenacity up and it's running rampant in arena right now.

there will always be a meta set of skills. Back in the pre-Shoretrooper days, Geo Soldier, then Rey and finally Wiggs ran rampant as they had no counter. Then same the Palp/Zader/anything meta where anything could win in January, and the zaul meta. Owing to the huge debuffs inflicted by Zaul, Tenacity Up and triple cleanse became rampant until this day.

I know, but that doesn't mean it's wrong to create a counter for an ability that has no current counter. That's essentially why Shoretrooper was designed with a pre-taunt. Why are you so against balance?

"Heezyyyy;c-1100669" wrote:
What if General Grievous rework gave allies turn meter every time an enemy gains a buff?

Doesn't really seem like an ability GG would have tbh. He would've run away if the enemy started gaining buffs. It also would punish ALL buffs, whereas really the only buff that needs to have some kind of way to be punished is Tenacity Up. The toons designed above are direct counters to the tenacity up spam of the current meta whereas this would be more a skill designed to counter Chaze's HoT spam.

"Vertigo;c-1100693" wrote:

"Heezyyyy;c-1100669" wrote:
What if General Grievous rework gave allies turn meter every time an enemy gains a buff?

Doesn't really seem like an ability GG would have tbh. He would've run away if the enemy started gaining buffs. It also would punish ALL buffs, whereas really the only buff that needs to have some kind of way to be punished is Tenacity Up. The toons designed above are direct counters to the tenacity up spam of the current meta whereas this would be more a skill designed to counter Chaze's HoT spam.

There already IS a HoT counter. Boba.

Fantastic! Yet another anti-Jedi idea.

Not

Has anyone actually lost to a triple cleanse lately? I just don't see them being a massive problem. So many combos can beat them handily. What is the issue? The lemmings will always copy the meta...

"TheChosenOne77;c-1100811" wrote:
Has anyone actually lost to a triple cleanse lately? I just don't see them being a massive problem. So many combos can beat them handily. What is the issue? The lemmings will always copy the meta...

Exactly. these droid/empire users don't know how to move on and farm another team.

Next thing you know those "buff droids" posts will return yet again.