Andor (S1) Discussion [Spoilers allowed]
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- So the whole prison storyline was for a post-credits scene?
- @LordDirt
Plus why does every scene and character have to matter?
I mean, hey. I hear where you're coming from, but I've done a (very small) bit of professional writing and if your editor is even halfway decent they're going to be yelling at you if you can't immediately answer for the purpose of every single scene and every single character.
They don't have to matter, but if you don't want to get hit upside the head with a rolled up newspaper, they do. - @Screerider
now we have a storyline that could just be removed entirely without affecting the main plot or character arc.
Strong disagree.
When Cassian was arrested, he wasn't fighting the Empire. He was a guy who stole stuff from the Empire because he liked making fools of them, and having gotten in trouble and then gotten some money, he was happy to lie low for years.
It was the prison experience that transformed him into someone willing to throw his life away in Luthen's ship for the opportunity to maybe fight the Empire for real.
He's been a rebel his whole life, but Going to prison is what made Cassian a Rebel. d "MasterSeedy;c-2393741" wrote:
@LordDirtPlus why does every scene and character have to matter?
I mean, hey. I hear where you're coming from, but I've done a (very small) bit of professional writing and if your editor is even halfway decent they're going to be yelling at you if you can't immediately answer for the purpose of every single scene and every single character.
They don't have to matter, but if you don't want to get hit upside the head with a rolled up newspaper, they do.
Understood but long character building in a miniseries is possible. Movies are usually more streamlined.- One thing, among many, that I liked was that not all characters have plot armor. Sure, we know Cassian lives. We know Melshi lives. But for most of the side crew, the writers seemed willing to let many of them die. By the prison break episode, I was nervous, in a good way. I'd grown attached to some of the prisoners, and I cared if they made it. I was on the edge of my seat. Loved it!
The only part I can remember right now as having moved too slow for me were the Cass flashbacks. - Full disclosure- I thought the series was fantastic. Cast, script & story were well above par for Disney SW series to date and the way that the rebellion was rooted in the struggles and experience of ‘ordinary’ people was the best thing. You can have as many scheming senators, guerilla fighters and lone wolf (ex Jedi? Ex Sith?) revolutionaries but in the end it’s not until the masses move into action do you have any real revolution. That’s awesome (& why I asked slightly tongue in cheek if the real hero in Andor was his mum). Having said that, I almost didn’t watch it because of the slow & rather pointless Kassa backstory. His sister in this is reduced to a plot device to get him into the corporate zone brothel in order to have the fight that kicks everything into motion. That feels like bad writing to me. Couldn’t he just have been in the brothel for his own reasons & leave it at that?
Once all that was out of the way the series rocked. - Her name was Bix, and she and Cassian weren't sleeping together.SpoilerThat was the whole point. Bix's boyfriend got jealous of Cassian because Bix and Cassian were up to something on the sly. Boyfriend thought it was cheating, but it was actually sneaking around to sell stolen parts to the rebellion. Then he feels bad and stupid after reporting Cassian when the Corps show up and start killing people b/c he realizes that Cassian isn't his enemy and the Corps are, but it's too late.
The whole thing shows how people who collaborate with an evil regime aren't always on the side of evil. They have their own motives, typically very human ones. In this case it was an insecure man who didn't trust that he was worth his girlfriend's time and love, so he went looking for any evidence that she was involved in something that he didn't know about, and then used that as "proof" in his brain that the thing he didn't know about must be sex.
Human beings can be incredibly self-centred and short-sighted without being fully evil, and that's true no matter what galaxy they live in. "MasterSeedy;c-2393844" wrote:
Her name was Bix, and she and Cassian weren't sleeping together ANYMORE.
She is his ex-girlfriend and that history is the cause of suspicion from her current boyfriend.- The woman the entire town rioted as a distraction so he could rescue her. It's the kind of commitment being officially "out" as boyfriend and girlfriend is meaningless. We know.
"yolkywareagle;c-2393737" wrote:
That is really the first real “rebel” move he makes. On the side, in Rouge One didn’t cassias say he was in the fight since he was 7?
Well he’s been fighting against the imperials since he was 7, so technically true.
I think I like most how much more aware he is of the current situation than the people around him. On Ferrix; and in the prison. Even than Luthen at the end, since Andor knew exactly what choice he was giving him.
