I've found that galactic conquest can be somewhat fun at times and at other times tedious. As a free to play gamer I never bother going after the conquest pass as I don't always feel obligated to play it if I don't have enough energy points or fully charged squads and haven't cleared beyond normal difficulty. What are some helpful tips on how to make good progress without the pass? I know that doing the extra requirements will offer more rewards like using specific toons/factions in so many battles but I don't have enough powerful squads capable of surviving tougher enemies in later stages when enemies get to relic levels.

"MasterSeedy;c-2457453" wrote:Other people may think of disks I've forgotten, but these are disks you should want every time, and they're worth using the hard path to have as many chances as possible to get them. Invasive Endings is a new disc that is extremely nice coupled with the VA/AA. It makes you give all enemies 5 dots whenever one of your characters dieWith IE and a blue VA / 2 AA discs every time a character dies I dealt enough dmg to put 47 dots on all enemies.It was good to 3star some troublesome nodes (by using someone that revives), and also to finish up some feats on teams I dont have at usuable levels atm like Resistance.I could take 5 level 1 resistance toons in to a battle with no aoe skills, like geos, and when they killed one all the enemies instantly died off.

Or don't buy the pass and still get it in 4 to 5 months

"Coolnessda;d-268306" wrote:I've found that galactic conquest can be somewhat fun at times and at other times tedious. As a free to play gamer I never bother going after the conquest pass as I don't always feel obligated to play it if I don't have enough energy points or fully charged squads and haven't cleared beyond normal difficulty. What are some helpful tips on how to make good progress without the pass? I know that doing the extra requirements will offer more rewards like using specific toons/factions in so many battles but I don't have enough powerful squads capable of surviving tougher enemies in later stages when enemies get to relic levels. A few suggestions, as I’m in the same boat as you, having never bought a pass.1. To start off with, go through all the sectors as quick as you can. Use hard counters or GLs such that you know you won’t drop a battle (except maybe on a boss or mini-boss if the RNG is bad). That way you waste very little energy and can broaden your disk selection quickly.2. Go after the challenge path only on the sections leading up to disk choices and not scavengers. In the sections leading up to scavengers try and pick easier modes, or ones which might let you cheese a feat later.3. Only once you have a full disk selection should you focus on going back and topping off feats in sectors. If you do the 3x50c refreshes daily then you can get to the end of s5 by the 5th/6th day. That gives enough time to do almost any feat from scratch, except the win 40 with X if you only have one decent team for it. Additionally, if you’re not worrying about beating the hardest nodes at this point you can also afford to spend some energy on disk swapping.4. This is more of a long term piece of advice, but get JML. His granted ability has helped in cheesing sooo many feats over the last year or so I’ve had him.Of course these are only suggestions from my own meandering experience and other FTP players might disagree, but this was me with 9m GP with three days to go. DC farming time now.

To number 1, above, I'd say you are wasting way more energy this way. Going through with hard counters, instead of feat completing teams on your way through is costing you extra energy that could be used on your dc farm (or just less crystal use if not farming). In this conquest, every battle that is not a sector feat team should be Rebels (heaps of teams available at all stages of the game) or First Order to work through those 80 battles. If you're getting those 30 key cards it hardly matters if there are a few 1 or 2 star battles on the way.To number 2, I think this is a mistake for FTP conquesting. No pass means no extra consumables from that extra rewards track (there are heaps). With a limited roster at lower GP, the consumables can make a big difference. Initial tether and the frenzy tech in particular can make an impossible node passable. Gong off the challenge path cuts down on your chances of seeing those, and getting to choose the more useful other boosters. It is still worth it to divert off the challenge path for that cheesy Phoenix or First Order enemy team, but only in sectors where it really matters for a feat. And in that case, I'd divert ahead of a disk choice as well, not just hope to see them again later.I think the most important thing to do if trying to get the best rewards for your roster is planning. Go to discord ahead of the conquest and find the feat list. Figure out what you can likely achieve with your roster. If you can, look at what feats you can skip that cost the most per key card. For example, the resistance team and bounty hunter team x14 feats in sectors 1 and 2 are only worth 5 points each for 14 battles. That's a lot of energy for 5 points, if you could be doing other feats, or getting more stars off nodes along the way. But only skip them if it fits your plan. Make sure to do a few battles for the big feats every day. I do 2 ewok battles early in the day, 2 at night. That's 4 battles at 90%+ stamina each day, to have 20 cut in 5 days. Doing the same thing for a 40 battle feat gets it done in 10 days, no stress and not really that repetitive (for this game). The 5 or 10 day time frame means you have a few days to get some disks before starting this too.The last thing I'd like to say is about stamina management. Once you have a few sectors open you have options. If you don't have a good disk setup by sector 3, keep pushing along to get sectors done and get the disks you need. If you have an ok setup by then, you can now do a few battles in each sector each day to keep stamina high. I think of it in refreshes. Do a refresh (6 battles on hard) in sector 1 dc farming for teams that you have that can't beat other stuff. For me that is 2 ewoks and a light side mandos fight this time, then 2 Veers/piett kills fights on the Mon Mothma sector 2 dc node. Another refresh can go to moving earlier sector feats along. The third refresh and natural energy goes into progressing further. This means you are using a wide range of teams every day, spreading the stamina use, and making it less repetitive in a day.

If you ftp - focuse on gold crate. Red crate requires brand new characters or conquest character that are usually gated from ftp(if you not 9+ mill account).With gold crate 65 x 3 and 25 x 3 you will receive 270 shards.So, you need to buy 60 more with conquest currancy during the year. Or buy conquest pass to cover this shards. 5-6 month and conquest character is yours.

Approaching galactic conquest as free to play

26 Replies

librarian139
New Scout
2 years ago
"scuba;c-2457606" wrote:
"DeusArt;c-2457478" wrote:
If you ftp - focuse on gold crate. Red crate requires brand new characters or conquest character that are usually gated from ftp(if you not 9+ mill account).
With gold crate 65 x 3 and 25 x 3 you will receive 270 shards.
So, you need to buy 60 more with conquest currancy during the year. Or buy conquest pass to cover this shards.
5-6 month and conquest character is yours.

So because you don't know how to manage your resources you want to give others bad advice?
FTP can absolutly get red crate every time if they have the time to grind out the feats.
I don't buy the pass and have gotten red crate every time even when g12 new charaters are "required"
most of the time you can skip the feat with the new "required" units and still get through

Should only settle for gold if you lack the time to spend going after red.

It's not bad advice at all. Telling somebody going for gold crate still gets you the new unit in 5 months instead of 3 is a good point, especially if the next conquest may be more demanding than this one, looking at the steady increase in feat and/or battle difficulty we saw til now.

I always go for gold crate if I want to unlock the new unit asap, since red crate is just annoying to get and requires, just as DeusArt wrote, most of the new shinies at high levels to comfortably get (not doing 10.000 cheeses with jml)

As a FTP with not that much time I would further advise to choose Which conquest to grind and Which not.
If I want the unit badly, I go for the gold crate. If it's interesting for my roster I go for the 465 crate and see if I have resources to buy crystals. If I don't care at all for the unit I go for the second or third chest.
Helps with keeping the grind in check, so I won't get annoyed with the mode.
ildarz
2 years ago
"DeusArt;c-2457691" wrote:
Could you complete LS Mandolorians feat when you have only BAM reliced and Mando g9?

Yes, you can. I did it with R3 BAM and G8 Armorer, Bo, IG12&Grogu and Paz, with last two being at 4 and 3 stars. And that's without VV disk (no luck this time).
ScoundrelRui
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
I just couldn't be bothered with grinding all the feats and I settle for the gold crate
Miketo28
Seasoned Hotshot
2 years ago
Others have given very thorough advice on the game play in getting through the conquest. My advice will be on resource management.

Buying shards for the conquest characters become cheaper when they are not the main one. For instance, the next conquest will be Darth Bane's third and final conquest. Then he will become the secondary character. After that, he will still be available for shard purchases. That is when you should get your remaining required shards. Accept that rather than six or fewer conquests, you will still be able to unlock the characters before they hit proving grounds.
M0st1yHarm1ess
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"DeusArt;c-2457691" wrote:
"scuba;c-2457606" wrote:

So because you don't know how to manage your resources you want to give others bad advice?
FTP can absolutly get red crate every time if they have the time to grind out the feats.
I don't buy the pass and have gotten red crate every time even when g12 new charaters are "required"
most of the time you can skip the feat with the new "required" units and still get through

Should only settle for gold if you lack the time to spend going after red.

When you could pass "g12 new characters" means that you have all other requirements. But what if you don't? Could you complete LS Mandolorians feat when you have only BAM reliced and Mando g9?
Current conquest is easy one. But previous conquest required Incs, journey, conquest and new characters in same time. In case when you are 5-6m GP and didn't have conquest characters in your roster at all - it's just impossible to hit red crate.

Actually, I can't remember a conquest where there were enough "hard no" feats to preempt 630 keycards. By "hard no" I mean when the player simply does not have the toon required. They have always designed it so that if you can't do any of the "hard no" feats, you have to complete everything else. Granted that means a lot of hard grinding and cheesing, and in general a very demanding process, but at least in theory it's possible to red crate.
DeusArts
Seasoned Adventurer
2 years ago
"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2457712" wrote:

Actually, I can't remember a conquest where there were enough "hard no" feats to preempt 630 keycards. By "hard no" I mean when the player simply does not have the toon required. They have always designed it so that if you can't do any of the "hard no" feats, you have to complete everything else. Granted that means a lot of hard grinding and cheesing, and in general a very demanding process, but at least in theory it's possible to red crate.

As example Malicos conquest:

Hard no:

Ben Solo surviving - 3
Gain We Have Returned - 10
Win with Admiral Trench - 4
Win with Jedi Knight Cal Kestis - 5
Win 40 battles with Darth Malgus - 15

Total: 37 - Total you could skip for red crate: 34

And I didn't speak about not having JML to complete surviving feats or Starkiller feat if you just didn't have him. All rosters are different and at 5-6M GP you always didn't have something that is needed.
But I'm really happy for those who have everything and hit red crate regularly.
M0st1yHarm1ess
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"DeusArt;c-2457809" wrote:
"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2457712" wrote:

Actually, I can't remember a conquest where there were enough "hard no" feats to preempt 630 keycards. By "hard no" I mean when the player simply does not have the toon required. They have always designed it so that if you can't do any of the "hard no" feats, you have to complete everything else. Granted that means a lot of hard grinding and cheesing, and in general a very demanding process, but at least in theory it's possible to red crate.

As example Malicos conquest:

Hard no:

Ben Solo surviving - 3
Gain We Have Returned - 10
Win with Admiral Trench - 4
Win with Jedi Knight Cal Kestis - 5
Win 40 battles with Darth Malgus - 15

Total: 37 - Total you could skip for red crate: 34

And I didn't speak about not having JML to complete surviving feats or Starkiller feat if you just didn't have him. All rosters are different and at 5-6M GP you always didn't have something that is needed.
But I'm really happy for those who have everything and hit red crate regularly.

Ok, I see where you are coming from now. When I was talking about my "hard no", I didn't account for those conquest characters from more than one or two cycles ago. I mean if by Malicos one still hasn't got Malgus or Swolo, it's kind of becoming a "death spiral" situation, isn't it?
scuba75
Legend
2 years ago
"DeusArt;c-2457691" wrote:
"scuba;c-2457606" wrote:

So because you don't know how to manage your resources you want to give others bad advice?
FTP can absolutly get red crate every time if they have the time to grind out the feats.
I don't buy the pass and have gotten red crate every time even when g12 new charaters are "required"
most of the time you can skip the feat with the new "required" units and still get through

Should only settle for gold if you lack the time to spend going after red.

When you could pass "g12 new characters" means that you have all other requirements. But what if you don't? Could you complete LS Mandolorians feat when you have only BAM reliced and Mando g9?
Current conquest is easy one. But previous conquest required Incs, journey, conquest and new characters in same time. In case when you are 5-6m GP and didn't have conquest characters in your roster at all - it's just impossible to hit red crate.

You are changing your argument now.
You are talking about old units now.
There is only one new unit you needed to complete the LS Mando feat and he could have been g9
scuba75
Legend
2 years ago
"Solem_Phyxx;c-2457692" wrote:
"scuba;c-2457606" wrote:
"DeusArt;c-2457478" wrote:
If you ftp - focuse on gold crate. Red crate requires brand new characters or conquest character that are usually gated from ftp(if you not 9+ mill account).
With gold crate 65 x 3 and 25 x 3 you will receive 270 shards.
So, you need to buy 60 more with conquest currancy during the year. Or buy conquest pass to cover this shards.
5-6 month and conquest character is yours.

So because you don't know how to manage your resources you want to give others bad advice?
FTP can absolutly get red crate every time if they have the time to grind out the feats.
I don't buy the pass and have gotten red crate every time even when g12 new charaters are "required"
most of the time you can skip the feat with the new "required" units and still get through

Should only settle for gold if you lack the time to spend going after red.

It's not bad advice at all. Telling somebody going for gold crate still gets you the new unit in 5 months instead of 3 is a good point, especially if the next conquest may be more demanding than this one, looking at the steady increase in feat and/or battle difficulty we saw til now.

I always go for gold crate if I want to unlock the new unit asap, since red crate is just annoying to get and requires, just as DeusArt wrote, most of the new shinies at high levels to comfortably get (not doing 10.000 cheeses with jml)

As a FTP with not that much time I would further advise to choose Which conquest to grind and Which not.
If I want the unit badly, I go for the gold crate. If it's interesting for my roster I go for the 465 crate and see if I have resources to buy crystals. If I don't care at all for the unit I go for the second or third chest.
Helps with keeping the grind in check, so I won't get annoyed with the mode.

It is bad advice to say because you are ftp you should only go for gold crate.
It will be roster dependent (not spending dependent) if you can get red or not and should be evaluated each time, not as a blanket rule.
Yes going gold is not a bad thing, but not going for red just because you are ftp is a horrible suggestion. Heck as I said before, could even be a time constraint.
Aim for red, settle for gold if roster or time doesn't allow for red.
MasterSeedy
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
You are changing your argument now.
You are talking about old units now.

I don't think that they ever specified new units. They were just talking about having a specific unit that is required to finish a feat, where if you don't have that unit, the feat is utterly impossible. And there are feats like that, and sometimes there are enough feats like that that folks on the lower end of Hard Conquest eligibility may find red crate literally impossible.

I think that we as readers just assumed that they were only talking about the tip-of-the-spear units. It was a misperception, not a change in argument.