Arena will require multiple strong teams soon?

It's already like that for those of us that have no interest in running the Triumvirate. Rey for Jedis and Rex for Triumvirate. Keeps me from having to use gear and zetas on Sion and Traya.

There will always be a META.

It is nice to have options in arena, but there are always a strong team that will win most of the time.

"Kyno;c-1645008" wrote:
There will always be a META.

It is nice to have options in arena, but there are always a strong team that will win most of the time.

I feel like this mentality is going to soon pass...

If your “strong team” is easily beaten by another... yet that team can’t hold its own vs. another team that is also “strong”...
But then that “strong” team is easily beaten by several others....
But those teams lose badly to the other previous mentioned teams...

Then which team do you use?

the META is always the team that holds better on defense. that is always the team to beat, as that is the one people will leave in for more time. beating that team with an alternative team is always nice and sometimes easier, but that doesn't change the fact that you wont leave a team on defense all night if you dont think it is holding better than your other options.

Diversity = good. I'm glad. I already rotate JRey and EP teams depending on my moods. Dont even swap mods anymore. I can swing a 3rd team pretty soon.

"Kyno;c-1645017" wrote:
the META is always the team that holds better on defense. that is always the team to beat, as that is the one people will leave in for more time. beating that team with an alternative team is always nice and sometimes easier, but that doesn't change the fact that you wont leave a team on defense all night if you dont think it is holding better than your other options.

Exactly what Kyno said. The meta is whatever team holds best on defense. There are all sorts of teams that beat other teams on offense, but unless you have two completely equal teams that hold exactly as well on defense as each other, there will always be a “best” team or meta team. Right now that is Traya lead. It holds better on defense then any other team right now. Add to the fact that it can beat any other team on offense, including other Traya teams, and it’s clearly the best team currently.

I don’t think Jango will change the meta. Sure Jango teams might be able to beat Traya on offense, but so do a lot of other teams. Seems like every day the game changers are posting some video of a team that beats Traya, but the question is how will it do on defense? I don’t see Jango teams holding well on defense. I certainly could be wrong, but I’m just not seeing it.

Currently there is nothing on the horizon that is going to change the Traya meta. That is certainly not to say you can’t get first with other teams, but no matter what team you use, you’re likely going to fall farther on defense with a non-Traya team.

"Kyno;c-1645017" wrote:
the META is always the team that holds better on defense. that is always the team to beat, as that is the one people will leave in for more time. beating that team with an alternative team is always nice and sometimes easier, but that doesn't change the fact that you wont leave a team on defense all night if you dont think it is holding better than your other options.

That’s because the game is poorly balanced (probably by design, but that’s irrelevant). In a balanced game it would be like the OP suggests the team that held best on defense would simply be the team with the counter owned by the smallest % of people. It would be great if there was a team out there that equivalent Traya teams simply couldn’t beat because they simply were a poor matchup, but that weren’t OP because they had their own weaknesses that other teams could exploit.

IMO they would also make more money that way, because you would need multiple arena teams. You couldn’t simply run Sith, because you’d be in trouble if you came up against their counter. Unfortunately it simply doesn’t work that way

"Bulldog1205;c-1645027" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1645017" wrote:
the META is always the team that holds better on defense. that is always the team to beat, as that is the one people will leave in for more time. beating that team with an alternative team is always nice and sometimes easier, but that doesn't change the fact that you wont leave a team on defense all night if you dont think it is holding better than your other options.

That’s because the game is poorly balanced (probably by design, but that’s irrelevant). In a balanced game it would be like the OP suggests the team that held best on defense would simply be the team with the counter owned by the smallest % of people. It would be great if there was a team out there that equivalent Traya teams simply couldn’t beat because they simply were a poor matchup, but that weren’t OP because they had their own weaknesses that other teams could exploit.

IMO they would also make more money that way, because you would need multiple arena teams. You couldn’t simply run Sith, because you’d be in trouble if you came up against their counter. Unfortunately it simply doesn’t work that way

I hear what you’re saying, but I also think this is probably the most diverse arena has ever been. It’s darn near impossible to make teams exactly equal. In nearly all games there is a “best” squad, even if it’s only slightly better than the second team. CG also has to give a reason to do HSR. If Traya was mediocre or equal to other characters that were easier to obtain, people wouldn’t be creating a bunch of different teams for the raid. Most people would choose to get the character that was easier to obtain.

"Ikky2win;c-1645030" wrote:

"Bulldog1205;c-1645027" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1645017" wrote:
the META is always the team that holds better on defense. that is always the team to beat, as that is the one people will leave in for more time. beating that team with an alternative team is always nice and sometimes easier, but that doesn't change the fact that you wont leave a team on defense all night if you dont think it is holding better than your other options.

That’s because the game is poorly balanced (probably by design, but that’s irrelevant). In a balanced game it would be like the OP suggests the team that held best on defense would simply be the team with the counter owned by the smallest % of people. It would be great if there was a team out there that equivalent Traya teams simply couldn’t beat because they simply were a poor matchup, but that weren’t OP because they had their own weaknesses that other teams could exploit.

IMO they would also make more money that way, because you would need multiple arena teams. You couldn’t simply run Sith, because you’d be in trouble if you came up against their counter. Unfortunately it simply doesn’t work that way

I hear what you’re saying, but I also think this is probably the most diverse arena has ever been. It’s darn near impossible to make teams exactly equal. In nearly all games there is a “best” squad, even if it’s only slightly better than the second team. CG also has to give a reason to do HSR. If Traya was mediocre or equal to other characters that were easier to obtain, people wouldn’t be creating a bunch of different teams for the raid. Most people would choose to get the character that was easier to obtain.

I disagree with this being diverse. This is one of the stalest metas we’ve had for a while. I see nothing but Traya or Bastilla up top. And I’m pretty sure most Bastilla teams are only because they don’t have Traya or the other Sith ready. Or because Traya squads are one of the most boring squads we’ve ever seen and they hate playing with them.

"Bulldog1205;c-1645039" wrote:

"Ikky2win;c-1645030" wrote:

"Bulldog1205;c-1645027" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1645017" wrote:
the META is always the team that holds better on defense. that is always the team to beat, as that is the one people will leave in for more time. beating that team with an alternative team is always nice and sometimes easier, but that doesn't change the fact that you wont leave a team on defense all night if you dont think it is holding better than your other options.

That’s because the game is poorly balanced (probably by design, but that’s irrelevant). In a balanced game it would be like the OP suggests the team that held best on defense would simply be the team with the counter owned by the smallest % of people. It would be great if there was a team out there that equivalent Traya teams simply couldn’t beat because they simply were a poor matchup, but that weren’t OP because they had their own weaknesses that other teams could exploit.

IMO they would also make more money that way, because you would need multiple arena teams. You couldn’t simply run Sith, because you’d be in trouble if you came up against their counter. Unfortunately it simply doesn’t work that way

I hear what you’re saying, but I also think this is probably the most diverse arena has ever been. It’s darn near impossible to make teams exactly equal. In nearly all games there is a “best” squad, even if it’s only slightly better than the second team. CG also has to give a reason to do HSR. If Traya was mediocre or equal to other characters that were easier to obtain, people wouldn’t be creating a bunch of different teams for the raid. Most people would choose to get the character that was easier to obtain.

I disagree with this being diverse. This is one of the stalest metas we’ve had for a while. I see nothing but Traya or Bastilla up top. And I’m pretty sure most Bastilla teams are only because they don’t have Traya or the other Sith ready. Or because Traya squads are one of the most boring squads we’ve ever seen and they hate playing with them.

"because Traya squads are one of the most boring squads we’ve ever seen and they hate playing with them"

This guy gets it.