Can we get an update on cheating?

The dude did it for 2 months without cg noticing or anyone else.how many more is using it ?

"Kyno;c-1932793" wrote:

"Th3NameLess;c-1932792" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1932784" wrote:

"mr37hat;c-1932776" wrote:
Kyno the problem is that a lot of us have spent a lot of money in this game, with the belief that the cheating was not as widespread as the videos have shown to be. That is a huge problem, as we are now seeing CG has known about the issue and kept mum while collecting our money. How can I truly trust any result in GA at this point?

They have not kept silent about this, they have openly stated they are looking at this and have always been working to keep tabs on and stop it.

Any time you have felt that your opponent has not been "on the level", please feel free to report this to CG_Leviathan.

Addressing singular occurrences and addressing the wider issue are two separate things. We’ve all seen how easily and brutally this game can be manipulated now, and that needs CG communication

But acting like it being possible and it is completely widespread with no consequences is also 2 separate things. Players get banned (for various amounts of times, all the time), it doesnt mean things are not working or are not in place to deal with them.

So CG has been aware of this for years now, and bulldog cheated for a month to whisleblow this with EXTREME settings such as no damage taken at all and no ability cooldowns.
CG's new anti cheat system didn't detect anything suspicious about his accounts behaviour.. But sure Kyno, it doesn't mean things are not working or are not in place to deal with this.

I guess we as the playerbase still got to work as CG's beta.. err exhibition testers and as an active anti cheat system by reporting suspicious behaviour while we pay their paychecks at the same time. And God forbid, dont give us any tools to make it easier for us to find and expose the cheaters, i guess that takes resources. It cost money, lets rather create a witch hunt there everyone will suspect anyone for the health of the game and the community.

..shiiit this actually made me upset. I've invested too much time and money in this game for something like this to exist. I really hope they take it seriously and apply the necessary means to halt or fix it.. and of course keep an open dialog with the community about this mess.

The problem with a program like that is there is no stopping it unless you find a way to block the program all together. All a cheater needs to do is create a new account after being banned and they can cheat their way right back to the top.

Two months is an awfully long time to get away with cheating. It could have gone on longer, too.

CG isn’t even coming close to catching everyone. This is a pretty serious issue. More people will start fairly soon. I don’t care about temporary bans. I care about people being gone from the game. I care about a resolution.

I don’t think there will be one, though. I don’t think this is easy to track. People seem to think a replay will help. Yes, that will help when people use an insane amount of offense, defense, one shot, or no cool downs. It will not help when people add just enough offense or defense to win. I’m worried about the 57 or 58 banners earned instead of 54 or 55. I’m worried about the guy who is cheating just enough in raids to get a higher score and better loot. If a player is smart about it, a replay of just a little more offense or defense, just enough to get the win, won’t look that much different in a replay.

A non statement from EA/CG is pretty detrimental, IMO. People are upset. People don’t want their investment wasted. People will start to vote with their wallets. Not saying anything is a bad move. Just going with the status quo is a bad move since it has been outright proven that whatever was put into place to detect cheating is failing.

Finally, it’s not a sign of weakness or a bad thing to come out and say that they have indeed failed at it and will make moves to improve. However, they haven’t been the most transparent of people in the past.

"Monel;c-1932822" wrote:
The problem with a program like that is there is no stopping it unless you find a way to block the program all together. All a cheater needs to do is create a new account after being banned and they can cheat their way right back to the top.

Adding defensive replays would stop the biggest part of it. While there could be subtle cheating line improving damage by 10% of something that people might not notice, it still means everything is right out in the open. Blatant cheating in PvP would disappear instantly.

No @Kyno - we do not want the "same" answer from Crumb. We want detailed, open, responsible, and respectful engagement from the CG team themselves about cheating, steps planned to address it, progress along said steps, and what the community should expect at each point in the progression.

CG couldnt prevent the cheating to work, for the Malak event. So they made a minimum GP requirement so cheaters couldnt get Malak. Nice way of protecting the whales.. screw the 99%

Look. As long as this cheating mod doesnt allow you to solo P3 sith raid. Then its no big deal.

CG: "...is it too late for us to blame this on Carrie?"

"Ultra;c-1932874" wrote:

"Bulldog1205;c-1932834" wrote:

"Monel;c-1932822" wrote:
The problem with a program like that is there is no stopping it unless you find a way to block the program all together. All a cheater needs to do is create a new account after being banned and they can cheat their way right back to the top.

Adding defensive replays would stop the biggest part of it. While there could be subtle cheating line improving damage by 10% of something that people might not notice, it still means everything is right out in the open. Blatant cheating in PvP would disappear instantly.

I don't think defensive replays are a reasonable ask. You've got millions of players in Grand Arena, each doing multiple battles, from as low as 0 battles to 8+, some sending junk teams doing 0 damage so that one team can have a defensive score of 80 or something for reddit karma

Each video needs to be compressed and stored on the server and its very costly on space

I’d settle for a text recap. Team used, damage done by characters on both sides, time elapsed, maybe total number of attacks/turns for each toon.