Conquest hard mode

Datamine. There's a spreadsheet of the rewards floating around.

Of course the usual disclaimer that this isn't official/confirmed.

"Sewpot;c-2237340" wrote:
8.1 million GP and can’t wait to see how difficult this conquest is!! Hope it’s not going to take the full 2 weeks to max out lol

I don’t know if the Krakens will be able to max it, we will see. Good luck though!

I think the difficulty in hard will be for those that took almost max time in Normal. No data disks initially will hurt those just hitting the minimum, plus the usual "Mods 3.0" of "which data disks show up at the nodes".

"Fingolfin26;c-2237318" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2237279" wrote:
I think anyone who qualifies and got max rewards from normal should give it a try. Getting the first crate in 2 weeks should be absolutely doable. It's also free/extra so there is not much loss.

I've forgotten the rewards breakdown, is tier 1 crate on hard better than max rewards on normal?

It's the same, which is why it's a good time to gauge your progress.

I don't see why ships shouldn't be involved in some capacity at some point. Everyone's saying they have 6 or 7 or 8 million gp but not also saying that they actually have 4 million in characters and 3 million in ships.

Don't count both when bragging and insist on only using one for everything else.

The only thing you risk to miss out on between max crate in normal and first crate in hard are the milestone crates that we get immediately upon completion. The credits are negligible but the conquest store currency could be valuable.

I'm going in expecting a beating )

"Twi;c-2237302" wrote:


Dont mention ships... It might give CG ideas about adding them into conquest...

Bring em on!

So, let's be clear, Tier 1 of Hard Mode is only better in 2 places:

1: it gets 200,000 more credits, which **in credits** is the same as 2x the progress rewards that we got between going up a reward crate. But of course, if you only get the 1st reward crate, you're getting many fewer progress rewards, so you're losing more credits than you're gaining. Maybe as many as 500,000, but probably less than that. Still, it's a net loss. I'm not saying that a day's worth of GW credits is a big deal, but just trying to be honest about what the rewards are and aren't.

2. It gets 10 more signal data of the medium-type (not the hardest to get, not the easiest to get).

So though the single crate is better in two ways, net credits would actually be down, and the final benefit isn't that big a deal. There are also other things besides credits in the progress rewards, and you're losing those without any more of the same put in the rewards crate to even partially offset the loss (as with credits).

I think that it's more fair to say that the first tier reward crate amounts to the "same" rewards as earning max rewards on Normal Mode, not "better". It might not even be that good, but without some more specific info about currency accumulation & the jawa merchant & such, "same" is probably the fairest we can say. Certainly not better, and while possibly it will turn out to be slightly worse, we can't say for sure it would be worse either. Toss up is the best we can do.

Again, i'm not trying to deter people from giving it a go, especially if they already got max rewards in Normal Mode. If you're creative and skilled enough to get max rewards with a 3.1M gp roster, then I really like your chances to hit that first crate in Hard Mode.

That said, let's not go around saying the minimum rewards are better. I think it paints a misleading picture of total rewards earned since it omits progress rewards as well as currency rewards that you can use to buy g12 gear. It doesn't say the Crate gives you less g12 gear, but we know you won't earn as much currency along your road if you only reach the first crate, so you'll get less g12 gear from the jawa merchant.

On top of that, and we can't know this yet, but we have to consider it, it might be worse in one important respect: RazorCrest blueprints. Remember that in addition to the box, you get currency which you can spend along the way. They say that they forgot that this time, but next time it will ONLY be available on Normal Mode in Sector 5. They haven't said anything about Hard Mode, but if the opportunity to purchase blueprints only occurs in Sector 5, then people who are only qualifying for the 1st reward box aren't going to get a chance to buy those blueprints.

So, go crazy with optimism when picking your Mode next time, but let it be clear-eyed optimism: The rewards you earn from the first crate are very slightly better, but other rewards will almost certainly be worse, so it should be Crate 2 or Bust for all of us optimists.

"Jack1210;c-2237332" wrote:

"khdelboy;c-2237294" wrote:

"MaglorC;c-2237283" wrote:
i'm not sure if I can handle Hard Mode with my roster. Only got 3.5m GP & got max rewards on normal mode.
Though, the first crate is as good as the max crate in Normal mode
Choices, choices, choices

I think you need 4m GP minimum to be able to join hard mode. Not 100% sure as it may be just a recommendation.

Personally I think the limit based on GP is stupid. I doubt you would be able to use over half, maybe three quarters at a push of your whole GP roster. I for one, wouldn’t be using my G9 Phoenix team for example. I doubt all of 4m of most players would be meta or useful, and you don’t even use ships.

Pretty sure its a 3 mil req and a 4 mil recommendation.

This is incorrect.

4m is the requirement.