Dark Side Clones and Tarkin / Raid
Okay so first of all this is just my first pre-lim run with my DSCT and Tarkin and I did difficulty #4 (max 1.2m score) and I ran it 15 times or so and there seems to be several bugs with this team and applying Order 66 seems to be nigh impossible.
The various criteria needed to apply O66 are just way to difficult to acheive and this goes for PvP just as well as PvE.
To give simple examples; expecting to have 8 stacks of DoTs in any given situation without them being dispelled at some point before Appo has a turn is just insane. Not to mention if it's PvE and Tarkin is the lead and not LV. In raids, expecting CX2 at any given time to be able to attack the same target 3 times in a row to apply O66 is also ridicoulus and there seems to be several bugs with these toons in raids as far as I can tell.
- Appo: Offense + Health, Speed: 325 - R5
- Disguised CT: Speed + Health, Speed: 337 - R6
- CX2: Speed + Health, Speed: 310 - R5
- Scorch: Healthx4 + Defense, Speed: 291 - R6
- Tarkin: Speed + Potency, Speed: 279 - R7
So let's start with what I think might be bugged (I could be wrong of course).
Scorch:
- "Following Protocol": enemy LV is obviously a GL so Scorch never applies DoTs at the start of the battle. When his taunt is dispelled he does not always apply O66 as he should. This is also seen in PvP such as when SLKR stuns Scorch.
- "Breaching Charge": at difficulty 4 I never managed to apply any DoTs to enemies with his current modding (and modding a tank with potency mods is just quite stupid imo) but off Balance always was applied, which is irrelevant in raids anyway since enemy Fox dispells all debuffs on enemy clones on his first turn, so any DoTs or debuffs applied are irrelevant anyway.
Appo / Knightfall Trooper:
- "Knightfall": never once with current modding did he apply a stun to any of the enemy units making the synergy with Disguised Clone Trooper difficult to apply O66. Also, if Disguised Clone Trooper was stealthed and is called to assist, he loses stealth as per his "Clever Ruse" passive but Knightfall ability also states that the Supporting Clone that assists will gain Stealth at the end of Appos turn. This makes it so that my DCT never got "Ruse".
- "Defender of the Empire": same thing here, if I Clone Trooper assists he loses stealth as per Clever Ruse passive but does not gain Stealth again even though the above mentioned abllities state that the assisting trooper gains stealth for 1 turn.
- "No Witnesses": so to apply O66 with Appo an enemy unit needs to have 8 DoTs stacks and with Fox being able to dispell debuffs right away, Scorch not applying DoTs at the beginning and apparently requiring Potency mods to apply it with his abilities - coupled with the fast turn over rate of enemies, I don't see really how this ability will be useful in applying O66 or doing proper damage since the enemy really won't have any DoTs anyway to trigger.
Disguised Clone Trooper and Enemy DCT:
- "Covert Assault": if DCT assists and loses stealth and does not regain stealth, he never starts with Ruse so he does not stun enemies. If Appo never stuns enemies either because he lacks potency, DCT won't apply O66 ever and since Tarkin is lead, applying O66 via Ability Block is impossible and if Fox can just cleanse enemies of every debuff they have it just doesn't really matter does it?
- "Well Executed Ambush": again, if there are no DoTs on the enemy team he really isn't doing much damage anyway and since for some stupid reason it was decided to have Tarkin and Dark Side Clone Troopers fighting against Lord Vader and other evil clones in an attempts to save Jedi the passives of these abilities that target LS, GR and Jedi is just useless.
- "Clever Ruse": already explained the problem with this and assists / stealth.
- "Decoy Squad Five": Now this is important as it also touches the enemy DCT but at the beginning of battle the Jedi that Vader is choking seem to count as allies for my team so the enemy DCT start with stealth and thus apply Retribution to their teammates and my DCT start without stealth. This is just stupid imo.
CX2:
- I've already talked about the difficulty of attacking the same target thrice in this raid but would also like to talk about what feels like an obvious bug: when he is called to assist, this does not count as 1/3 attacks needed to apply O66 but at the same time it does seem to interrupt the count if he assists versus another target that he has not attacked before. An example: if CX2 attacks Fox on his turn thats 1/3 attacks, if CX2 assists when Appo uses his ability on Fox, this does not count as 2/3 attacks and if CX2 assists Appo when he is attacking any other target, when CX2 attacks Fox during his own turn that counts as attack 1/3, not 2/3.
Imo, when it comes to raids but just as well in PvP, to possibly apply O66 is just way to difficult to acheive.
If anyone can explain to me what I'm doing so terribly wrong I would really appreciate it.