DEVS Please Fix GAC
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I agree that the problem is definitely temporary. That the more someone builds their roster, the more it’s easier for them to climb and for those larger accounts for them not to affect them. I mean I see it now as my GAC opponents this week have so far been a 9m with 5 GL’s and a 10m with 5 GL’s and Executor. However, I full cleared them both thanks to the fact that I just got Leia and I’m sure when I get Executor next, this problem will be even more minimal.
The issue that takes a looooooooong time to happen, especially if you don’t spend any money on the game. From a new player perspective, if I were to come into the game for the first time, get all the way to level 85 and then the first thing I face once I arrive at the competitive mode is a roster I have no chance against. Essentially the way I see it, the new player has three choices, keep f2p farming and deal with losses for a long while, buy some light speed bundles to try and mitigate the problem immediately or just leave. As the problem persists and new players have no idea what to do would, I think they would probably just drop the game out of frustration. I understand now that I face these crazy rosters for a reason, because I can actually beat them. It may be slightly unfair, but as you essentially said the price of winning is facing tougher opponents. I care enough about the game to try to keep climbing even when I’m disadvantaged. From a new player perspective though, why would they care? If they have minimal investment in the game, I think they’re more likely to drop it which is sad because I think this game has lot to offer. I don’t think I should be unconditionally winning as put it, but I do think that lower level players should not be unconditionally losing because of this problem. Before you ask for evidence of this, I’m gonna provide some below:
What inspired me to write my initial post was a video I saw from Nooch2Gud where he’s made a new f2p account but despite being in Carbonite 5 is facing rosters that he has no chance against as a 500k account. And Nooch is a very experienced player so I don’t think that had anything to do with it. I’m gonna send a link for the video below and I’m curious what you think about it, if the new player experience is being short-changed or if there is something we should be doing. Fair warning the video is more of a rant than anything but he shows the problem he’s facing in the video:
https://youtu.be/ojvTdSjDsds?si=FniaUFkMjozgIAJJ
And if you want to see him dealing with it from more of a gameplay perspective, here’s this video the GAC originates from, just skip to 17:00 to see him start playing GAC:
https://youtu.be/zvYPgH4iD-4?si=aWPdzCsQOK-6N03Y
I just got Leia and I’m sure when I get Executor next, this problem will be even more minimal.
I don't know. I think the boat you're in is your boat. The more things you get, the more you'll climb and the harder rosters you'll face. The further you climb, the more these players will care and know more how to use their rosters.
I think you'll forever? maybe for a very long time be shooting up, being forced to be creative to take out larger foes. By temporary, I meant being where you are. Once you break through, you'll start to climb and that won't stop until you hit mid Kyber at least. I'm fair sure of that. The fact you're taking out bigger, more developed rosters now, means that is likely never going to change.
From a new player perspective, if I were to come into the game for the first time, get all the way to level 85 and then the first thing I face once I arrive at the competitive mode is a roster I have no chance against.
This 100% should not be happening or allowed to happen. It's absolutely crazy that a new player to GAC first experiences are potentially vs a huge roster that never or rarely plays. Even if they win, that's no fun experience. An initial league (too late for Carbonite I think) needs to be something you can't demote into and have a limited time you can compete in it.
It may be slightly unfair, but as you essentially said the price of winning is facing tougher opponents.
Don't forget that there's a reward as well as a price! You're rewarded for climbing too. It's just that the rewards isn't winning every match.
What inspired me to write my initial post was a video I saw from Nooch2Gud
Well as I said, I think new accounts should be protected against this.
However, Nooch is probably the streamer I have the least respect for, he's hardcore bad loser. I know Nooch very well and used to watch a lot of his streaming. He's decries the current system nearly every stream and would find any opportunity to find faults with it.
If Nooch doesn't win, he'll usually bemoan the GP difference being the reason. Yes, a 500k new player should not be playing vs big accounts. However, his opinion is grossly biased.
I'm also unsure of where you believe your stand-point is on this. Are you the new player? Or are you talking about your past experiences and what you went through. You're a success story. You've come through it, and you can show how you can beat these rosters.
I’m curious what you think about it, if the new player experience is being short-changed or if there is something we should be doing. Fair warning the video is more of a rant than anything but he shows the problem he’s facing in the video:
Yeah, I don't need to hear Nooch's high pitched whiny voice, I get it. I'm with you totally. New players are being short changed. We 100% need this beginners league. Maybe 5 divisions, you spend 1 season in each division, before you go to Carbonite. That would make the new player experience so much better. As it is, how many players is GAC losing to the issues you and....yes Nooch point out?
I am definitely coming at this problem from past experience as my perspective instead of current. But I also agree that new players having an even lower beginners league would go a long way towards helping those players have a more positive GAC experience. I think it would also help buy time for them to build their rosters and maybe a counter or two for the big meta teams.
And yeah I’ll agree that Nooch kinda lacks the patience to dig his heels in and actually figure out how to beat some of these rosters, especially with some of his larger f2p accounts. He’s good at farming, but I think he lacks a bit of gameplay experience. Ahnald definitely understands how to play the game itself far better than most. I mean he helps develop a lot of off-meta counters to meta things so he probably did something similar to get his f2p to climb.
Also I do agree with ATM that sub 1m rosters probably shouldn’t be climbing too much, which is again why I like the idea of a beginners league, because it would help to climb at a reasonable rate against mostly fair opponents while their rosters are still developing. And if people complain about that then that’s on them, because then it could be reasonably determined that the problem is a skill issue instead of inherently flawed matchmaking.
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