Easiest fix for Arena collusion/shard-chart

I hear you but if you're driving home and someone who got paid out six hours earlier knocks you from first 10 minutes from payout just because he thinks it's funny....you probably won't admire it anymore.

"Vertigo;c-1549289" wrote:
Life is all about how your make an impression. If people think you're an a**, you're probably not gonna get a lot of support.

I never said this was a perfect system, but once we've gotten in contact with everyone, not a single person in my arena has actually said "No I want to annoy everyone and snipe you all and make you angrier at me."

My argument is it that it shouldn't matter what people think I am, other than a fellow competitor in a game mode designed for competition. I'd rather not have to kiss the ring of self-appointed gate-keepers to get access to the higher Arena ranks in the game, or even have it as an option someone could employ at all.

And of course most people would agree to being included if you ask them. If the options are to get constantly bumped down in rank by a group of people or get handed a virtually guaranteed rank, most people will choose the guaranteed. You're basically a cartel at that point.

"kello_511;c-1549719" wrote:
It’s a competitive game mode and some people are competitive.

Lol, I'm sorry, but people who cycle shardmates through ranks in a systematic way are basically the opposite of competitive. The truly competitive players are the ones who defy you all, do their best to climb on their own, and play the game as designed, crystal expenditure be darned.

Also to the second point while I can't speak for every shard chat, I know in the ones I'm in the only people who get targeted (and it isnt everyone in the chat, it's only a couple people who get affected by that player) are people who climb outside their payout and mess with other players payouts repeatedly.

I think there are some misconceptions about the evils of shard chats out there.

Even before I was in a shard chat, I would avoid attacking people I perceived to be in my payout, those who seemed active at the same time as me. It wasn't collusion; it was intelligent behavior to maximize my rewards. In turn I hoped that those people wouldn't snipe me in the hour before payout, because it really only worked to hurt us all. I also saved my attacks for the hour before my payout, to avoid screwing with people in payouts before mine. All this just seemed like the logical best way to play it for everyone in the shard, to maximize everyone's rewards including mine.

Now that I am in a shard chat, that same behavior is happening, just in a more organized way. I don't doubt there are horrible shard gangs out there that lock everyone out of the top 10 all day, but I really don't think that's how most shard chats are.

Also, I wasn't capable of taking advantage of the shard chat until I had a good enough team to climb to the top. When I was hovering around top 50 and couldn't beat the top 20 teams, no chat would have helped me.

I'm not in a shard chat, simply because I don't think one exists in my shard (yet). I place 1-3 most nights, sometimes 5 or even 7 if my timing really stinks.

It's the same group of people at the top. It'd be super easy and less stressful if we had a way to communicate payout times to prevent interfering with the other guys rewards. I try not to climb outside of the hour prior to my payout, for this exact reason. I have no interest in preventing people from climbing - I just want to avoid a back-and-forth with a guy who's payout is 3 hours off from mine. That situation doesn't benefit either of us. Your rank only matters AT payout. You can be the last place guy in your shard the other 23:59:59 and it won't affect your payout.

Instead of a chat, you have to play the snipe and lock dance, which is time consuming and can be actually detrimental to others, since when locking you're inevitably preventing your opponent from doing anything for 7:30 as well.

But none of this matters, since the anti-chat folks are convinced that anyone at the top is actively stopping them from climbing via some secret cabal.

By doing so, you would end up with shards, where some players didn't join the arena until months after the first person joined (assuming an even distribution of players at each payout time and a shard taking several days to fill). At least that would be the case when reshuffling younger shards. That wouldn't be fair.

You only need to stop the payout time, but CG like Mafia Player.
Make a 24h average and all player has the same chance. Not like it is now.

Uhhh, isn't this what Marvel Strike Force does??? And it sucks and is a stupid way to do it. There's like zero competition outside of the top 10 whales in every shard, cuz everybody just sits at the same spots and never has a real chance to climb. Oh, and after the first 5 battles, every individual refresh costs crystals. I bet you're in favor of that too. All this would do is drastically decrease everyones crystals.

PS: I'm not in a shard chat even tho I take top 10 pretty much every day. We've got a bunch of bigshot elitists that hellbent on keeping everyone out of the top 10. So I feel your pain ... but this is a horrible idea born of bitterness.

"Huatimus;c-1548668" wrote:
Dangit, I was hoping that nobody would reply and this thread will just die quietly and be sent to the Graives.

I see what you did there.

"GhostTruckin;c-1548237" wrote:

"Vertigo;c-1548208" wrote:
Someone's bitter.

This and saltier then the ocean lol

Let's pretend for a second you guys are correct and not simply projecting your own bias.

Please explain for the audience why you feel I might be bitter and/or salty over this issue without merely supporting the argument that a fairer system should be put in place.