Fleet mafia and new ship

"MrRandyWatson;c-2427978" wrote:

"Intimmydation;c-2427972" wrote:

"TargetEadu;c-2427636" wrote:
Also things depend on how mafia-esque the Shard Chat is. Some chats are nice and are just for organizing payouts. Some can be more exclusive/restrictive, but would welcome players with powerful Fleets. Some will only begrudgingly accept new players they can’t shake. And then the really nasty ones could just have their members attack and timeout so you can’t climb even with a meta fleet.

For what it’s worth, I only joined my Shard Chat after I unlocked Executor (fairly soon after its release) and started accidentally causing them issues by climbing at random points. That was more due to me not understanding what Shard Chats were, and for the most part mine’s been great, but it is a way to get yourself known.

My fleet shard is super accommodating, we reach out to invite anyone we see cracking top 20 so that we can coordinate POs and not snipe each other. Even those that don't join, the majority only climb just before PO and we don't have issues (and we avoid them as well if we can).

There are a few that refuse to join, and share a PO time with others...and purposely move into position to snipe b/c just before PO back to the further position (i.e. moving from 6 to 5 before going to 1, instead of just going 6 to 2 to maximize both players POs).

Granted, I am super lucky in my shard, my former guild mate is in it, hasn't played the game in 1 year and his Executor is still sitting at #22

Mine is the exact same way. The entire purpose of our fleet chat is to include everyone so we all maximize our payouts.
We've never shut anyone out and never will.
We don't gang up on the few people that refuse to join the chat and occasionally snipe payouts.
We help each other with counters and team setups in Discord.

I'd be bummed if that left almost more than the crystals. My fleet shard is like my second Alliance.

Same. Shout out to the guys/gals in both of my fleet shards :)

Same here aswell.
The people in my chat are awesome. They are fun!

"Rhydia;c-2428085" wrote:
I just to be in the fleet mafia. Heck I was in charge of it for a time. But as the years have passed my fellow mobsters have grown complacent to the point where they let the casuals hang out and attack their own shard mates instead. So I’m considering parking myself in first after I unlock Levi.

Way to prove the point of the thread. Where is the problem to include everyone and work together?

Fellow mobsters and casuals? No... they are all players, smh

"Lumiya;c-2428090" wrote:


Way to prove the point of the thread. Where is the problem to include everyone and work together?

Fellow mobsters and casuals? No... they are all players, smh

So are you saying there’s no such thing as casuals?

"Rhydia;c-2428101" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2428090" wrote:


Way to prove the point of the thread. Where is the problem to include everyone and work together?

Fellow mobsters and casuals? No... they are all players, smh

So are you saying there’s no such thing as casuals?

Please explain what 'casuals' means.

"AlexanderG;c-2428103" wrote:

"Rhydia;c-2428101" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2428090" wrote:


Way to prove the point of the thread. Where is the problem to include everyone and work together?

Fellow mobsters and casuals? No... they are all players, smh

So are you saying there’s no such thing as casuals?

Please explain what 'casuals' means.

People that don't climb often but when they do they don't respect payouts because they don't know and don't care.

"TVF;c-2428111" wrote:

"AlexanderG;c-2428103" wrote:

"Rhydia;c-2428101" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2428090" wrote:


Way to prove the point of the thread. Where is the problem to include everyone and work together?

Fellow mobsters and casuals? No... they are all players, smh

So are you saying there’s no such thing as casuals?

Please explain what 'casuals' means.

People that don't climb often but when they do they don't respect payouts because they don't know and don't care.

Well if they are not let into the chat of course they don't know the times, that's what the chat is for, to be able to coordinate. If the Mafia decides not to include everyone that might be able to climb, they shouldn't be surprised if those players then are knocking them down while climbing if they don't know whose payout is when. Especially if they are/were one of those Mafias that actively try to prevent them from climbing and gang(ed) up.

Sounds to me the commenter in question is now frustrated because some of the shard members don't participate in that kind of ganging up anymore and actually let those not included play the game and climb.

If that is the case then I do not feel sorry for the commenter.

"TVF;c-2428145" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2428144" wrote:

"TVF;c-2428111" wrote:

"AlexanderG;c-2428103" wrote:

"Rhydia;c-2428101" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2428090" wrote:


Way to prove the point of the thread. Where is the problem to include everyone and work together?

Fellow mobsters and casuals? No... they are all players, smh

So are you saying there’s no such thing as casuals?

Please explain what 'casuals' means.

People that don't climb often but when they do they don't respect payouts because they don't know and don't care.

Well if they are not let into the chat of course they don't know the times, that's what the chat is for, to be able to coordinate. If the Mafia decides not to include everyone that might be able to climb, they shouldn't be surprised if those players then are knocking them down while climbing if they don't know whose payout is when. Especially if they are/were one of those Mafias that actively try to prevent them from climbing and gang(ed) up.

Sounds to me the commenter in question is now frustrated because some of the shard members don't participate in that kind of ganging up anymore and actually let those not included play the game and climb.

If that is the case then I do not feel sorry for the commenter.

Don't know why you quoted me I'm just answering the question of what a casual is.

Because if the commenter sees them like you described, I wanted to give my opinion about it (to the commenter) so I "included" your description by quoting you?

"TVF;c-2428145" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2428144" wrote:

"TVF;c-2428111" wrote:

"AlexanderG;c-2428103" wrote:

"Rhydia;c-2428101" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2428090" wrote:


Way to prove the point of the thread. Where is the problem to include everyone and work together?

Fellow mobsters and casuals? No... they are all players, smh

So are you saying there’s no such thing as casuals?

Please explain what 'casuals' means.

People that don't climb often but when they do they don't respect payouts because they don't know and don't care.

Well if they are not let into the chat of course they don't know the times, that's what the chat is for, to be able to coordinate. If the Mafia decides not to include everyone that might be able to climb, they shouldn't be surprised if those players then are knocking them down while climbing if they don't know whose payout is when. Especially if they are/were one of those Mafias that actively try to prevent them from climbing and gang(ed) up.

Sounds to me the commenter in question is now frustrated because some of the shard members don't participate in that kind of ganging up anymore and actually let those not included play the game and climb.

If that is the case then I do not feel sorry for the commenter.

Don't know why you quoted me I'm just answering the question of what a casual is.

Sure. And while it seems to me you were just answering a question (thsnk you) - the casual player might not be hitting top 5 or top 10 regularly if they're typically stopped from doing so. This is kind of the problem with shut-door fleet chats. The casual is damned if they do and damned if they don't.

"AlexanderG;c-2428164" wrote:



Sure. And while it seems to me you were just answering a question (thsnk you) - the casual player might not be hitting top 5 or top 10 regularly if they're typically stopped from doing so. This is kind of the problem with shut-door fleet chats. The casual is damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Bingo. I am fully capable of climbing to 1,2,3 every day but am prevented from doing so by a closed door chat. Which I’ve tried very nicely to get into multiple times over the years. Their reasoning is that there are already too many players and PO times represented. If I get within top 10, there is usually a group of folks that swiftly push me back. Contrast that with my kid’s fleet shard which is pretty much dead and he can climb to 1 every day with no issue. So he is getting thousands of crystals more than I simply because he lucked out with a better shard. Doesn’t seem right IMhO…