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QuimSWGoH
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9 years ago

Future problem: Everybody will be able to defeat everyone!!

Hey all =) I'm a player playing from 1 year ago, leader of World Dream Team, a guild usually in top 10 in the leaderboard, I got my General Kenobi unlocked one week ago, now is maxed, also I have QGJ zeta, and I see that soon or currently we will have a big problem in arena, that is that everybody will be able to defeat everyone.

The zeta abilities makes needed an intelligent control to defeat some teams, like Maul zeta, because of a lot of evasion always is better kill Maul, Palpatine and Vader at the end, but the AI attacks are random so maybe they attack them at he beginning, with a lot of dodges, stealth, critical immunity, so the AI is very bad against Maul teams, and same against Vader teams with Boba, specially if the enemy has Chirrut or Kenobi or both, then Boba needs be killed first, but the AI in most of cases will not attack Boba, and if attack Boba he will resurrect and gain the buff again after kill some character, and the same happens against QGJ zeta, the AI is dodging all the time.

Soon, in old servers, everyone will get the first zeta and will unlock Kenobi, most of people will apply zeta to QGJ, Vader or Maul, the AI is very bad against Boba in Maul or Vader zeta teams, against Anakin in QGJ zeta teams, there is not any good team in defense, everybody will be able to defeat everyone.

Also with Chirrut and Baze, or only with Baze and an intelligent control in offense, there is players that can defeat good teams, for example I have QGJ, Yoda, Kenobi, Wedge and Biggs, that is very good team, but a team with wedge, Biggs, Anakin, Baze and TIE fighter can defeat me, for example, because the AI is bad against Anakin, against Baze in defense, also against TIE fighter in defense is bad, so these teams without Kenobi and without zetas also can defeat QGJ zeta teams.

This is a game to try to be better than the rest in the arena, is the fun thing, is not a game about characters collection, so if I cannot be better than the rest of players, when I have a good team with good mods, will become very boring, the artificial intelligence is very bad against the zeta teams.

I think the most important thing for the developers would be try to improve the artificial intelligence, because will be very frustrating always lose in defense, and will not be fun have a team that everyone can defeat, the only way to be better will be have the best mods, very hard to get, like get 260 speed in Boba, or something like this, to block abilities at the beginning and be faster than all zeta teams in the server, and anyway is not hard to defeat these teams with very good mods, I'm defeating a whale with Maul zeta in my server very easily and he has +115 speed in Boba, +100 speed in Palpatine, +90 in Maul zeta, Vader and B2, and anyway is easy, so the game will become very boring if everyone can defeat everybody.

I have been getting be always top 10 in my arena because always I'm the first to get the new characters that help in defense, first to get RG, first to get Shoretrooper, first to get Baze and Chirrut, one of the first to get Kenobi, so usually I had some advantage in the arena that allow me get rank 1 with only 2-3 attempts, sometimes 1, but now with the zetas and Kenobi it will change and probably we will have a problem with it.

What do you think? =)

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everyone!!","id":"message:4135712","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":86,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:104076"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4135712"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135712"},"body":"Hey all =) I'm a player playing from 1 year ago, leader of World Dream Team, a guild usually in top 10 in the leaderboard, I got my General Kenobi unlocked one week ago, now is maxed, also I have QGJ zeta, and I see that soon or currently we will have a big problem in arena, that is that everybody will be able to defeat everyone.

The zeta abilities makes needed an intelligent control to defeat some teams, like Maul zeta, because of a lot of evasion always is better kill Maul, Palpatine and Vader at the end, but the AI attacks are random so maybe they attack them at he beginning, with a lot of dodges, stealth, critical immunity, so the AI is very bad against Maul teams, and same against Vader teams with Boba, specially if the enemy has Chirrut or Kenobi or both, then Boba needs be killed first, but the AI in most of cases will not attack Boba, and if attack Boba he will resurrect and gain the buff again after kill some character, and the same happens against QGJ zeta, the AI is dodging all the time.

Soon, in old servers, everyone will get the first zeta and will unlock Kenobi, most of people will apply zeta to QGJ, Vader or Maul, the AI is very bad against Boba in Maul or Vader zeta teams, against Anakin in QGJ zeta teams, there is not any good team in defense, everybody will be able to defeat everyone.

Also with Chirrut and Baze, or only with Baze and an intelligent control in offense, there is players that can defeat good teams, for example I have QGJ, Yoda, Kenobi, Wedge and Biggs, that is very good team, but a team with wedge, Biggs, Anakin, Baze and TIE fighter can defeat me, for example, because the AI is bad against Anakin, against Baze in defense, also against TIE fighter in defense is bad, so these teams without Kenobi and without zetas also can defeat QGJ zeta teams.

This is a game to try to be better than the rest in the arena, is the fun thing, is not a game about characters collection, so if I cannot be better than the rest of players, when I have a good team with good mods, will become very boring, the artificial intelligence is very bad against the zeta teams.

I think the most important thing for the developers would be try to improve the artificial intelligence, because will be very frustrating always lose in defense, and will not be fun have a team that everyone can defeat, the only way to be better will be have the best mods, very hard to get, like get 260 speed in Boba, or something like this, to block abilities at the beginning and be faster than all zeta teams in the server, and anyway is not hard to defeat these teams with very good mods, I'm defeating a whale with Maul zeta in my server very easily and he has +115 speed in Boba, +100 speed in Palpatine, +90 in Maul zeta, Vader and B2, and anyway is easy, so the game will become very boring if everyone can defeat everybody.

I have been getting be always top 10 in my arena because always I'm the first to get the new characters that help in defense, first to get RG, first to get Shoretrooper, first to get Baze and Chirrut, one of the first to get Kenobi, so usually I had some advantage in the arena that allow me get rank 1 with only 2-3 attempts, sometimes 1, but now with the zetas and Kenobi it will change and probably we will have a problem with it.

What do you think? =)","body@stringLength":"3378","rawBody":"Hey all =) I'm a player playing from 1 year ago, leader of World Dream Team, a guild usually in top 10 in the leaderboard, I got my General Kenobi unlocked one week ago, now is maxed, also I have QGJ zeta, and I see that soon or currently we will have a big problem in arena, that is that everybody will be able to defeat everyone.

The zeta abilities makes needed an intelligent control to defeat some teams, like Maul zeta, because of a lot of evasion always is better kill Maul, Palpatine and Vader at the end, but the AI attacks are random so maybe they attack them at he beginning, with a lot of dodges, stealth, critical immunity, so the AI is very bad against Maul teams, and same against Vader teams with Boba, specially if the enemy has Chirrut or Kenobi or both, then Boba needs be killed first, but the AI in most of cases will not attack Boba, and if attack Boba he will resurrect and gain the buff again after kill some character, and the same happens against QGJ zeta, the AI is dodging all the time.

Soon, in old servers, everyone will get the first zeta and will unlock Kenobi, most of people will apply zeta to QGJ, Vader or Maul, the AI is very bad against Boba in Maul or Vader zeta teams, against Anakin in QGJ zeta teams, there is not any good team in defense, everybody will be able to defeat everyone.

Also with Chirrut and Baze, or only with Baze and an intelligent control in offense, there is players that can defeat good teams, for example I have QGJ, Yoda, Kenobi, Wedge and Biggs, that is very good team, but a team with wedge, Biggs, Anakin, Baze and TIE fighter can defeat me, for example, because the AI is bad against Anakin, against Baze in defense, also against TIE fighter in defense is bad, so these teams without Kenobi and without zetas also can defeat QGJ zeta teams.

This is a game to try to be better than the rest in the arena, is the fun thing, is not a game about characters collection, so if I cannot be better than the rest of players, when I have a good team with good mods, will become very boring, the artificial intelligence is very bad against the zeta teams.

I think the most important thing for the developers would be try to improve the artificial intelligence, because will be very frustrating always lose in defense, and will not be fun have a team that everyone can defeat, the only way to be better will be have the best mods, very hard to get, like get 260 speed in Boba, or something like this, to block abilities at the beginning and be faster than all zeta teams in the server, and anyway is not hard to defeat these teams with very good mods, I'm defeating a whale with Maul zeta in my server very easily and he has +115 speed in Boba, +100 speed in Palpatine, +90 in Maul zeta, Vader and B2, and anyway is easy, so the game will become very boring if everyone can defeat everybody.

I have been getting be always top 10 in my arena because always I'm the first to get the new characters that help in defense, first to get RG, first to get Shoretrooper, first to get Baze and Chirrut, one of the first to get Kenobi, so usually I had some advantage in the arena that allow me get rank 1 with only 2-3 attempts, sometimes 1, but now with the zetas and Kenobi it will change and probably we will have a problem with it.

What do you think? 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Future problem: Everybody will be able to defeat everyone!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135713"},"body":"Squad arena, fleet arena, GW, raids, ls/ds/Cantina nodes, events, mod challenges/battles, daily challenges.

Arena is a small part of the game, only 25%. With all those different modes it is forcing you to collect different characters which IMO makes it more of a collection game.

That said I will agree you are mostly working to make you arena squad better so all those other modes are supporting running arena.

I would love to see them make the AI smarter but I don't see it getting to the point of holding same spot better because players will always figure out different teams comps from what is available to use against them. I personally take the ai lack of smarts into account when I do battles. I also use probably 3-4 different teams in arena because of the diversity I face daily.

I don't think it will be to much of a problem if your collecting. IMO it is good that what is winning/holding now doesn't stay that way forever (again forcing you into that collection), I know this will not be a favored opinion. I personally like battling different teams allowing me to use different teams instead of same one over and over on both side.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-01-21T18:59:27.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-21T18:59:27.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4135712/message:4135713","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:213839":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:213839","uid":213839,"login":"Dart-Lossberg","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2017-01-04T10:08:20.000Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1721239591000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:213839"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135714":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4135714","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4135714":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:213839"},"id":"message:4135714","revisionNum":1,"uid":4135714,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4135712"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4135712"},"subject":"Re: Future problem: Everybody will be able to defeat everyone!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135714"},"body":"One of the way to alter AI is to make it learn from players.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"60","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-01-21T19:00:06.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-21T19:00:06.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4135712/message:4135714","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135715":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4135715","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4135715":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:104076"},"id":"message:4135715","revisionNum":1,"uid":4135715,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4135712"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4135712"},"subject":"Re: Future problem: Everybody will be able to defeat everyone!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135715"},"body":"
\"scuba;859023\" wrote:
Squad arena, fleet arena, GW, raids, ls/ds/Cantina nodes, events, mod challenges/battles, daily challenges.

Arena is a small part of the game, only 25%. With all those different modes it is forcing you to collect different characters which IMO makes it more of a collection game.

That said I will agree you are mostly working to make you arena squad better so all those other modes are supporting running arena.

I would love to see them make the AI smarter but I don't see it getting to the point of holding same spot better because players will always figure out different teams comps from what is available to use against them. I personally take the ai lack of smarts into account when I do battles. I also use probably 3-4 different teams in arena because of the diversity I face daily.

I don't think it will be to much of a problem if your collecting. IMO it is good that what is winning/holding now doesn't stay that way forever (again forcing you into that collection), I know this will not be a favored opinion. I personally like battling different teams allowing me to use different teams instead of same one over and over on both side.


Well I don't think arena is 25% lol I think arena is 75% because all you do is to improve your arena characters, you are playing GW to get credits and buy or improve mods for the arena team or improving characters for raids, and you play raids to get characters like Kenobi useful for the arena, and you play raids to get gears useful to improve characters, maybe you need improve Boba for example or improve Maul, you play ships to get zetas, to make better the arena team, so all is about the arena team, the rest that you said (nodes, challenges, activities, events) also are to get things for the arena team.

So if I'm playing better than some players that still not unlocked Kenobi and still not have any zeta and for me is very easy in offense defeat them, would be nice if the artificial intelligence is improved and for example the characters always attack Boba first, or always attack characters thst not have foresight, Anakin gain 100% TM and 80% damage and attack a character with foresight when there is 3 characters without foresight, for example, the AI is pretty bad, they need improve it or will become very boring.

https://youtu.be/2zuPOnj1JMc

This is my team for example and all the players with zeta can defeat me very easy anyway, when for me is very easy defeat them, and teams without zetas and without Kenobi can defeat me.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-01-21T19:07:50.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-21T19:07:50.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4135712/message:4135715","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:73941":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:73941","uid":73941,"login":"Prudkoan","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-02-22T22:35:48.000Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1721239691000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:73941"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135716":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4135716","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4135716":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:73941"},"id":"message:4135716","revisionNum":1,"uid":4135716,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4135712"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4135712"},"subject":"Re: Future problem: Everybody will be able to defeat everyone!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135716"},"body":"
\"Maljr1980;859031\" wrote:
Totally agree. It is unfair that you can beat everyone else, but then you lose on defense. Only way to balance the game is to make you unbeatable so that you don't get bored and quit.


totally agree lol","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-01-21T19:18:09.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-21T19:18:09.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4135712/message:4135716","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:201743":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:201743","uid":201743,"login":"Bremlo1486","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-11-18T21:08:59.000Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1721239641000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:201743"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135717":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4135717","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4135717":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:201743"},"id":"message:4135717","revisionNum":1,"uid":4135717,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4135712"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4135712"},"subject":"Re: Future problem: Everybody will be able to defeat everyone!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135717"},"body":"That problem has already been going. With all the new additions and upgrades, there is always a way to be taken out. It has really made me rethink my spending on this game as well as my time with the game recently. I mean, really, what's the point in paying for premium content or devoting the hours in grinding gear anymore? It used to be if you spent some or worked hard to grind stuff out, you could build a strong setup that couldnt be beat by most. Now, the only advantage it brings these days is you may get something faster than others. Other than that, it doesn't provide much other worth, IMO. Sadly, much of it comes down to speed with mods. It's unfortunate this game has started to go down that path.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-01-21T19:26:59.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-21T19:26:59.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4135712/message:4135717","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:123979":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:123979","uid":123979,"login":"masseyPSX","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-03-25T03:33:38.000Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1721239561000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:123979"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135718":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4135718","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4135718":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:123979"},"id":"message:4135718","revisionNum":1,"uid":4135718,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4135712"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4135712"},"subject":"Re: Future problem: Everybody will be able to defeat everyone!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135718"},"body":"1 word..
Mods!!
Biggest whale wins","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"36","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-01-21T19:28:21.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-21T19:28:21.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4135712/message:4135718","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135719":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4135719","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4135719":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:11578"},"id":"message:4135719","revisionNum":1,"uid":4135719,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4135712"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4135712"},"subject":"Re: Future problem: Everybody will be able to defeat everyone!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135719"},"body":"
\"Quim;859036\" wrote:
\"scuba;859023\" wrote:
Squad arena, fleet arena, GW, raids, ls/ds/Cantina nodes, events, mod challenges/battles, daily challenges.

Arena is a small part of the game, only 25%. With all those different modes it is forcing you to collect different characters which IMO makes it more of a collection game.

That said I will agree you are mostly working to make you arena squad better so all those other modes are supporting running arena.

I would love to see them make the AI smarter but I don't see it getting to the point of holding same spot better because players will always figure out different teams comps from what is available to use against them. I personally take the ai lack of smarts into account when I do battles. I also use probably 3-4 different teams in arena because of the diversity I face daily.

I don't think it will be to much of a problem if your collecting. IMO it is good that what is winning/holding now doesn't stay that way forever (again forcing you into that collection), I know this will not be a favored opinion. I personally like battling different teams allowing me to use different teams instead of same one over and over on both side.


Well I don't think arena is 25% lol I think arena is 75% because all you do is to improve your arena characters, you are playing GW to get credits and buy or improve mods for the arena team or improving characters for raids, and you play raids to get characters like Kenobi useful for the arena, and you play raids to get gears useful to improve characters, maybe you need improve Boba for example or improve Maul, you play ships to get zetas, to make better the arena team, so all is about the arena team, the rest that you said (nodes, challenges, activities, events) also are to get things for the arena team.

So if I'm playing better than some players that still not unlocked Kenobi and still not have any zeta and for me is very easy in offense defeat them, would be nice if the artificial intelligence is improved and for example the characters always attack Boba first, or always attack characters thst not have foresight, Anakin gain 100% TM and 80% damage and attack a character with foresight when there is 3 characters without foresight, for example, the AI is pretty bad, they need improve it or will become very boring.

https://youtu.be/2zuPOnj1JMc

This is my team for example and all the players with zeta can defeat me very easy anyway, when for me is very easy defeat them, and teams without zetas and without Kenobi can defeat me.


I made the supporting statement that yes all the other modes are generally using to improve arena squad, but on pure numbers of game modes arena is only 25%.

I also agree that I would like to see ai control better. There is just a lot to go into ai control though, and we can't get simple things right let alone an ai decision tree.

Let's take your fs example of not attacking characters with fs.
I disagree as it would depend on who is coming up for attack next.
If it is barris turn and next is chirrut, gk, Biggs etc with all abilities off CD than having barris attack tfp with fs to clear it is actually a good option.

Also have to remember if the ai is made better you will also have a problem defeating teams easily same as you want your team to do better on defense that means others will also.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-01-21T19:29:16.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-21T19:29:16.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4135712/message:4135719","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:89290":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:89290","uid":89290,"login":"Acidwormss","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-08-14T01:37:16.000+01:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1721239591000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:89290"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135720":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4135720","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4135720":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:89290"},"id":"message:4135720","revisionNum":1,"uid":4135720,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4135712"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4135712"},"subject":"Re: Future problem: Everybody will be able to defeat everyone!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135720"},"body":"
\"Thanaton;859039\" wrote:
\"Maljr1980;859031\" wrote:
Only way to balance the game is to make you unbeatable so that you don't get bored and quit.


Wait...what???


I think it was sarcasm.

Personally I think PVP is centered on too much burst damage. This also makes RNG play a much greater role as over longer battles like raids things even out some.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-01-21T19:30:06.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-21T19:30:06.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4135712/message:4135720","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:48534":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:48534","uid":48534,"login":"barhebraeus","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-05-22T20:18:51.000+01:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1721239509000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:48534"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135721":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4135721","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4135721":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:48534"},"id":"message:4135721","revisionNum":1,"uid":4135721,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4135712"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4135712"},"subject":"Re: Future problem: Everybody will be able to defeat everyone!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135721"},"body":"
\"Thanaton;859039\" wrote:
\"Maljr1980;859031\" wrote:
Only way to balance the game is to make you unbeatable so that you don't get bored and quit.


Wait...what???


Lol. Making a player unbeatable would be a great way to balance the game. *smh*","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-01-21T19:32:45.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-21T19:32:45.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4135712/message:4135721","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135722":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4135722","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4135722":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:104076"},"id":"message:4135722","revisionNum":1,"uid":4135722,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4135712"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4135712"},"subject":"Re: Future problem: Everybody will be able to defeat everyone!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4135722"},"body":"
\"Bremlo1486;859048\" wrote:
That problem has already been going. With all the new additions and upgrades, there is always a way to be taken out. It has really made me rethink my spending on this game as well as my time with the game recently. I mean, really, what's the point in paying for premium content or devoting the hours in grinding gear anymore? It used to be if you spent some or worked hard to grind stuff out, you could build a strong setup that couldnt be beat by most. Now, the only advantage it brings these days is you may get something faster than others. Other than that, it doesn't provide much other worth, IMO. Sadly, much of it comes down to speed with mods. It's unfortunate this game has started to go down that path.


Yeah I like a lot this game, is my favourite game, and I like a lot the Star Wars universe, I have a YouTube channel that I have started one month ago with 136 suscriptors, I'm getting like 4-6 suscriptors per day thanks to my swgoh videos, but it will start to become boring, because the raids are always the same, GW the same, ships require too much time every battle, I'm top 20 but is a lot of time, the arena always I'm rank 1-2 but a lot of players can defeat me, I'm not dropping more than top 10 but I think soon it will change and everybody with a zeta will be able to defeat everyone, and very soon you will see in your server that 15-20 players have zeta, instead of 3-5, and 15-20 players have Kenobi, and maybe I will drop to rank 30 when everyone can defeat everybody lol

So arrived to this moment if the devs not improve the artificial intelligent and the game becomes boring, probably I will stop to play this game, because will not be fun.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-01-21T19:34:16.000Z","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-21T19:34:16.000Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4135712/message:4135722","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741360647000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741360647000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741360647000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741360647000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741360647000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741360647000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741360647000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741360647000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741360647000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741360647000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741360647000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741360647000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741360647000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741360647000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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