Galactic war difficulty

"AOHNH;c-1675601" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1675565" wrote:
Gw makes new players have consequences for focusing solely on arena and not having a broad roster and encourages you to build a broader roster.

There's no reason to do this to new players. Arena rewards are gems, so it is always better to go for them.

By not focusing solely on your arena team, you may not do as well in arena but do better in gw. Or by focusing soley on arena, you do better in arena but not gw. It forces you to make choices about what to develop.

Again, that's not a real choice. It is always better to go for arena.

Also the opinion that teams can't win against a team due to a gear level or two is simply not true. If you run a team that is a hard counter to that team, it is possible to win with less gear ir at a lower level. Also, in gw, you don't have to necessarily win with just one team. If your team can take out a key player, you can mop up with another team.

If the levels are close enough, sure. But when the other team is 17 levels ahead, it is simply not possible. Those 17 levels affect not only pure damage output, but also things like resistance, which greatly diminishes the effectiveness of debuffs. I guess if the other team is just tanks and supports, you may be able to grind it out, but when you face 4 aoe attackers, there's nothing you can do to win.

But eventually you get a deep roster and have many options. That's when the sim is needed. Nothing more boring that soending 20 min a day autoing gw with no chace or losing. And trust me new players you'll get there.

It is just as boring to run into a team that you have no way of beating and cut your GW short. Again, my point is that there's no good reason for this bad design.

I never said you shouldn't focus on arena. It is important. But if you could focus solely on arena and never fall short elsewhere, there wouldn't be much challenge managing your resources.

And ultimately that is what this game is about. Regardless of whether you are new or old, there are choices you have to make on what areas of the game you want to primarily focus on and other areas are bound to suffer.

If you focus on ds ships you get zetas but you won't be ready for Chimera as soon.

If you farm for cls, you put off farming jtr, chewie, thrawn and revan.

If you focus teams for ls tb, you won't doas well in ds tb.

Gw vs arena is just one of many choices. Like any event it may not be possible for you if you don't have the right teams developed. And some days are harder than others.

But wanting a part of the game nerfed because it's hard is just being a crybaby. It's supposed to be a challenge to overcome. I couldn't beat the mythic tier of every event the first time but over time I developed my roster so that I can now. Gw is the same concept. If you gear crappy toons you will lose.

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1675611" wrote:
I never said you shouldn't focus on arena. It is important. But if you could focus solely on arena and never fall short elsewhere, there wouldn't be much challenge managing your resources.

And ultimately that is what this game is about. Regardless of whether you are new or old, there are choices you have to make on what areas of the game you want to primarily focus on and other areas are bound to suffer.

If you focus on ds ships you get zetas but you won't be ready for Chimera as soon.

If you farm for cls, you put off farming jtr, chewie, thrawn and revan.

If you focus teams for ls tb, you won't doas well in ds tb.

Gw vs arena is just one of many choices. Like any event it may not be possible for you if you don't have the right teams developed. And some days are harder than others.

This makes perfect sense... after you reach the farming point. It makes no sense for players that are still trying to get to that point.

But wanting a part of the game nerfed because it's hard is just being a crybaby.

I'm not crying. I've provided a logical explanation as to why it is a bad design. I haven't seen anything logical in response.

It's supposed to be a challenge to overcome.

Then it should be placed appropriately. Stage 9 of the dark side battles is also a challenge to be overcome, but it is not open to level 50 players, is it?

Gw is the same concept. If you gear crappy toons you will lose.

It looks the opposite to me. I gear the best possible team I can have, only to have it trumped by a team I cannot possibly beat.

Lol. Cause if I want to talk to a brick wall , I can do that in person, heck I can even take my sledge to it. You tho, feel you are entitled to something that defies logic in a game of this nature. The conclusion you are spelling out is that this game is not for you. You refuse to heed or entertain advice that will accomplish the goals you desire in your crusade to have Gw reduced to a baby level of difficulty. Good luck. At your level in the game, you should already have two squad on the go. Having one squad is a massive error on your part. And in no way helps anyone out at all least of all you. Eventually you will realize this, or, you will quit because you have not grasped to point of the game and the advice that was proffered .

So, to recap,

"GhostTruckin;c-1675609" wrote:

"AOHNH;c-1675608" wrote:

"GhostTruckin;c-1675606" wrote:
Your right, the plan is to have you develop your roster. You can’t accomplish anything worthwhile in this game with one single squad.

That is also wrong, from a new player's perspective. It's always best to go for a single squad early on.

Sorry, you are again wrong.

Have a good one.

"AOHNH;c-1675614" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1675611" wrote:
I never said you shouldn't focus on arena. It is important. But if you could focus solely on arena and never fall short elsewhere, there wouldn't be much challenge managing your resources.

And ultimately that is what this game is about. Regardless of whether you are new or old, there are choices you have to make on what areas of the game you want to primarily focus on and other areas are bound to suffer.

If you focus on ds ships you get zetas but you won't be ready for Chimera as soon.

If you farm for cls, you put off farming jtr, chewie, thrawn and revan.

If you focus teams for ls tb, you won't doas well in ds tb.

Gw vs arena is just one of many choices. Like any event it may not be possible for you if you don't have the right teams developed. And some days are harder than others.

This makes perfect sense... after you reach the farming point. It makes no sense for players that are still trying to get to that point.

But wanting a part of the game nerfed because it's hard is just being a crybaby.

I'm not crying. I've provided a logical explanation as to why it is a bad design. I haven't seen anything logical in response.

It's supposed to be a challenge to overcome.

Then it should be placed appropriately. Stage 9 of the dark side battles is also a challenge to be overcome, but it is not open to level 50 players, is it?

Gw is the same concept. If you gear crappy toons you will lose.

It looks the opposite to me. I gear the best possible team I can have, only to have it trumped by a team I cannot possibly beat.

You have already said you're not willing to divert focus from arena which is your choice but the strategy of gw is to have several good teams to outlast the nodes.

So if you refuse to broaden your roster you will struggle.

Yes they could lock it until a higher level but then some players like that mode and want the challenge. And it is usually possible to finish even at low levels.

Also just to warn you, solely focusing on one team will also eventually hurt you when the meta shifts in arena. For example if you g12 Pheonix, you'll be screwed when everyone gets palp and your Pheonix is dropping like a rock and you have no other toons developed. But if you have a broad roster, you have a better chance to climb in arena if you hit a wall of teams that counter your main team.

"GhostTruckin;c-1675620" wrote:
So, to recap

I have no desire to respond to ad hominem attacks. If you wish to make a logical case, please do so.

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1675621" wrote:
You have already said you're not willing to divert focus from arena which is your choice but the strategy of gw is to have several good teams to outlast the nodes.

Actually, what I've said is that there's no logical reason for me to divert from arena to gw. I didn't say that I chose to do so, it is simply logical for a new player to do that.

Yes they could lock it until a higher level but then some players like that mode and want the challenge. And it is usually possible to finish even at low levels.

Hmm, in that case, why lock the light/dark stages?

Also just to warn you, solely focusing on one team will also eventually hurt you when the meta shifts in arena.

You're misunderstanding my point. I'm not saying that I already chose which squad I'm always going to run in the arena, I simply must concentrate on a single squad while I'm leveling up. During this leveling stage, having one strong squad provides the best results in arena regardless on the squad choice. It is also the best way to start participating in other guild activities as early as possible, since those are all above my current level.

I feel like you’re missing the main fact of this game: it’s a slow burn.

Yeah, choosing to focus on a strong arena team is the most “logical” choice because it gives you crystals. But it’s still your choice.

When I unlocked fleet, I climbed to rank 6 in 3 days. Then I stopped caring about dleeet because I figured nobody else would in my shard since we just unlocked it. That wasn’t the case, however, and I dropped like a stone. Then, while everybody was focusing on the new hotness, (I think it was CLS), I focused on ships. Then i climbed back up to top 100. And this was before fleet arena gave crystals as reward.

Was my voice the most logical? No. But it resulted in a more diverse roster for me since the most effective ships needed crew members I didn’t have.

I missed Thrawn twice before I decided to farm Phoenix, then I had to wait for his fourth appearance to get him to 7*.

The game is about CHOICES. There’s always going to be a “gate” to get by, whether it’s GW, Arena, fleet, mod battles, or any other area of the game. Another example: I was 3 stages behind on dark side nodes on the PvE table because I focused on Rebels.

You can’t have everything all at once in this game, it’s about choosing which area to fall back on and which to progress.

"KausDebonair;c-1675694" wrote:
I feel like you’re missing the main fact of this game: it’s a slow burn.

I'm not missing it, I just don't see how it applies to new players as of today.

Yeah, choosing to focus on a strong arena team is the most “logical” choice because it gives you crystals. But it’s still your choice.

Well, I suppose anything can be called a choice. I can choose to buy a game and don't play it just for the sake of making a choice of not playing it. Making an argument like that is just silly.

When I unlocked fleet, I climbed to rank 6 in 3 days. Then I stopped caring about dleeet because I figured nobody else would in my shard since we just unlocked it. That wasn’t the case, however, and I dropped like a stone. Then, while everybody was focusing on the new hotness, (I think it was CLS), I focused on ships. Then i climbed back up to top 100. And this was before fleet arena gave crystals as reward.

So, this doesn't apply to today's game state, then? Right now the best "choice" for leveling players is to field arena team full of pilots so that your ship arena performance is good as well. I can "choose" not to do that, hurting both my progression and my contribution to my guild. Why would I make such a bad choice? Just because it exists?

There’s always going to be a “gate” to get by, whether it’s GW, Arena, fleet, mod battles, or any other area of the game.

What's happening in GW is hardly a gate. When you hit a squad 17 levels above you regardless of your current level - that's called a moving goal post that can only be reached by maxing out your own level.

Another example: I was 3 stages behind on dark side nodes on the PvE table because I focused on Rebels.

It seems to me that this is completely normal for new players today. It makes perfect sense - concentrate your efforts on one strong squad.

You can’t have everything all at once in this game

Again, that's fine. That's why I can't yet play on dark hard 9 stage. But why lock that stage, yet allow similar brick wall experience in GW?

Level is not the only factor in a character's power. Gear, *s, skill levels and mods all play a part.

"Rath_Tarr;c-1676070" wrote:
Level is not the only factor in a character's power. Gear, *s, skill levels and mods all play a part.

Sounds like you're helping me. Gear and skill levels unlock based on character's level. Higher level = better gear. * count and mods' quality also follow character's level if the player "chooses" the most logical path and invests in one strong squad.