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chrispyapple25's avatar
7 years ago

Heroic ready

So my guild can complete t6 of the sith raid in four days. Are we to the point where we should try the heroic lvl? How high does a guilds GP have to be?

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  • Really? How many solid RJT teams do you have? It should only take about 15 "reasonable" squads to kill p1. This is also something that can be practiced in T6. The only difference is that Nihilus hits a lot harder in heroic, he's tougher, and he has a 50% chance to take a 3rd action (which is significantly less impactful post-nerf).

    Good players should be scoring 8-10M in T6. The next time you try Heroic, make sure people don't post "crap" scores like 1-2M. Set a percentage threshold (based on the # of RJT squads you have), and don't let people post their scores if they're below it.

    For example, if you have 25 RJT squads, set a limit of 5%. That way 20 squads who complete 5% can kill the phase. A couple squads might make mistakes and hit below that, but some of the squads should also hit above that, and in the end you should finish the phase. Then, focus your attention on the players who aren't following instructions - because early HSith attempts require a lot of discipline and organization, and players who don't follow instruction are usually just dead weight. Expect everyone to contribute - otherwise (IMO) they are indicating that they don't want to be part of a Heroic Sith guild.
  • "jkray622;c-1685544" wrote:
    Really? How many solid RJT teams do you have? It should only take about 15 "reasonable" squads to kill p1. This is also something that can be practiced in T6. The only difference is that Nihilus hits a lot harder in heroic, he's tougher, and he has a 50% chance to take a 3rd action (which is significantly less impactful post-nerf).

    Good players should be scoring 8-10M in T6. The next time you try Heroic, make sure people don't post "crap" scores like 1-2M. Set a percentage threshold (based on the # of RJT squads you have), and don't let people post their scores if they're below it.

    For example, if you have 25 RJT squads, set a limit of 5%. That way 20 squads who complete 5% can kill the phase. A couple squads might make mistakes and hit below that, but some of the squads should also hit above that, and in the end you should finish the phase. Then, focus your attention on the players who aren't following instructions - because early HSith attempts require a lot of discipline and organization, and players who don't follow instruction are usually just dead weight. Expect everyone to contribute - otherwise (IMO) they are indicating that they don't want to be part of a Heroic Sith guild.


    No offense, but i wasn't actually asking for help. I know what we need to work on and where we need to be to get past p1 and the rest of heroic. I just have to get it worked on without changing the stated culture of our guild.
  • "jkray622;c-1685544" wrote:
    Good players should be scoring 8-10M in T6.


    I've never been able to top 8m in T6 and I have everyone up to 100% effective cc, with the usual speed and crit dam stats.
  • "TVF;c-1685602" wrote:
    "jkray622;c-1685544" wrote:
    Good players should be scoring 8-10M in T6.


    I've never been able to top 8m in T6 and I have everyone up to 100% effective cc, with the usual speed and crit dam stats.


    My team is by far the best jtr runs in our guild. I did 7.5% in heroic. I was doing 6-7mil in t6 then. I hit high 8mil in t6 nowadays if I'm paying attention. Shrug my expectations are not for others to match me. Our guild is a guild of 'semi casual hardcore people who wing it' as such our results are not exactly unexpected. We'll get there eventually once the semi casuals catch up with the semi hardcores. And that's perfectly fine with us. We know what we are.
  • We did one attempt on heroic a little while back and I think I did 13% in P1.
  • "TVF;c-1685602" wrote:
    "jkray622;c-1685544" wrote:
    Good players should be scoring 8-10M in T6.


    I've never been able to top 8m in T6 and I have everyone up to 100% effective cc, with the usual speed and crit dam stats.


    Hmmm, I'm just guessing here. I have posted ~7M in Heroic with my squad, so I assume if I went into a T6 raid I could add a few more million points due to the slower and weaker Nihilus.
  • Yes, I could have jumped to an HSTR guild a long time ago but I love my guild and it will be so much more satisfying when we do it together. And we're very close now I think.
  • I'm sure I got some lucky RNG and subsequent tries will be lower. Beginner's luck. ;)